Thanks for reporting

it would take a battery indicator

@deadwood, I hate to be the negative voice but I disagree. I despise that HCL you link, its super unhelpful, out of date and lists pages of untested hardware so it reads like a shopping list of items that DO need to be tested

I come to AROS again looking to see what works by way of hardware and finding the same old (IMHO, garbage,) HCL.

I want to know what GPUs work (from memory AMD was never 100% as 2D and 3D didnt work on same cards, Nvidia up to Fermi worked properly, rest was unknown) but a simpler document which showed that would be helpful.

Same with Sound cards/chipsets.

Does AROS work with UEFI now? AHCI?

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the idea of AROS but the experience of finding out what hardware would work (without just buying and trying) isn't good :-(

Anyway, I scored a free mobo that I believe was compatible years ago so now just GPU to check. I so wish that Kepler GPUs were supported rather than VESA mode only, but I cannot find any info on that!

At the very beginning of the list you have just what Recommended hardware is for, so you don't have to buy blind and test. You have several boards that we have tested and they definitely work. They are not expensive.

@Methanoid

The HCL contains now two sections. One starting from "Recommended hardware" contain hardware that is re-tested and certified to work. This is for people who don't want to experiment and just want to buy hardware that works and is guaranteed to be working. Second section, starting from "Laptops" list information on multiple hardware that was tested with AROS throughout the years. This one is for people who like to experiment and find out what works and what does not.

The "Recommended hardware" section currently contains 2 portable models, 1 desktop model and 4 motherboad models along with indiction of GPUs to use. As I read your post, this is what you are looking for: hardware that is proven to work and that will continue being supported and re-tested with future releases.

@retrofaza Oh so buy MORE hardware than be able to see from an HCL what works that I might already have? Not what I want AT ALL

@deadwood Yes I see what you are doing

But the pages of "junk" like this excerpt of "untested" stuff except to tell me USB 3 doesnt work. Well they are just "junk" info to me.

Name Chipset IDE SATA Gfx Audio USB Ethernet Wireless Test Distro Comments
VivoBook 15 K505ZA X505ZA AMD R5 2500U Raven Ridge N/A M.2 Vega GCN 5 with VCN 1 HD USB3 N/A 2018 64bit - 15.6" HD 1366 x 768p - keyboard swap requires removal of all components -
Vivobook F412DK AMD R5 3500U N/A NVMe Radeon 540x HD USB3 2019 64bit - 14in FHD - keyboard swap requires removal of all components -
VivoBook 15 K570ZA X570ZA AMD R5 2500U N/A M.2 Nvidia GTX 1050 HD USB3 N/A 2019 64bit - 15.6in - keyboard swap requires removal of all components -
Vivobook X421DA M413DA, Vivobook X512DA, Vivobook F512DA M515DA, AMD Ryzen 3 3250U later AMD R5 3500U R7 3700U 2 NVMe AMD RX Vega 3 HD Audio with codec USB 3.1 gen N/A 2019 2020 14in, 15.6in FHD IPS dull - internal battery - ram soldered - keyboard swap requires removal of all components -
Zenbook 14 AMD 3700U 4500U N/A NVMe Vega 8 or 10 Gen 3 N/A 2019 64bit - LPDDR4 ram - keyboard swap requires removal of all components -
Asus VivoBook Flip 14 TM420 4500U 4700U N/A NVMe Vega 3 or 7 USB3 N/A 2020 64bit convertible - 4gb ram soldered with 1 sodimm slot - internal battery - keyboard swap requires removal of all components -

I was hoping the HCL would have finally evolved to something like those that Hackintosh sites offer - more in the form "this chipset LAN will work, this doesnt, this chipset GPU works, this doesnt, this Sound chipset works" but its not.

I'm not expecting anyone to give a stuff about what I think but I am just expressing how I think AROS is making itself more and more niche and less relevant when you cannot "join the club" without buying the cheap compatible recommended kit.

I'm pretty confident I have AROS supported kit and can run it. I just don't think it's encouraging new users. Deadwood has been an AROS stalwart for years so maybe you are too close to it to see this.

Just my 2p. My world isn't affected if nobody cares :-)

https://en.wikibo...86_support this page IS actually helpful and relevant (IMHO)

Would ask for Fermi to be clarified.... does it mean GF 5xx or include Fermi GF6xx cards like GT610?

Would ask for AMD comment to be clarified - does this mean all cards that AMDGPU supports (I have a Bonaire card for example somewhere) work with 2D and OpenGL? Or something else? As someone who HAS won the Plain English Campaign's Crystal Mark I can say confidently that the page ISN't the clearest :-)

Hi,

AFAIK, fermi and onwards is not supported and most AMD including amdgpu is not as well, am hoping more AMD but who knows what the future might bring

Regarding the HCL, one persons junk is anothers... ;-)

Again, from memory but didnt Deadwood himself add support for Fermi cards to AROS many years ago?

in my experience, as far as fixed computers are concerned, many are compatible, but we're talking about computers from about ten years ago, but they're still very good, and not only for aros. then you can upgrade with a compatible video card, network card and maybe an SSD. roughly speaking, starting with the intel core 2 duo you can have a good workstation. i don't know which generation of i7 is compatible, maybe the third or fourth or even the fifth

there is also achi support that will be fixed and then you will have sata support, i have taken my computers apart from laptops and netbooks always at random but i always refer to systems with features that have been outdated for years

there is another thing to point out if gallium will not be updated it is pointless to think of the latest hardware possible i.e. without graphics acceleration in my opinion it is pointless at least for laptops

EDIT: Whoops, meant to post in a new thread. Sorry!

for new users, get help in making the best choice regarding hardware, even if you have to take but a couple of very inexpensive cards it's no big deal

I was looking for additional hardware and was checking my Toshiba L300(D) at Ebay and was surprised by the amount of offers there. The AMD-Versions are definitly compactable (Sempriom / Athlon X2), but with Intel-Versions (Pentium T4400 / Celeron ?) I'm not sure about running with AROS. Both are Socket-based, so there is the possiblity to switch CPU if nessecary. Dissadvantage of this model is the fix bios-battery so you cannot switch it.

On this model, just Ethernet and Wireless not working, the rest works fine (Expresscard-modul not tested yet).

Before saying "candidate for adding into recommended hardware-list", I would welcome if someone can check if intel-version working fine.

Is there any official place where users can report hardware tested with AROS?

Also, what is the status of nvidia drivers? I can run 1280x1024@60Hz, so I assume these drivers are partially working?

I have a bunch of hardware to test over the weekend.

you can open a new thread if you want or discuss it here, the state of the nvidia drivers I know is still at a standstill technology I had a card with these features but I didn't go beyond 1024x768, now I have an old geforce 8400 GS and I have a resolution of 1920x1080, yes maybe it's better to open a new thread

Yup, open a new thread in this forum or contact Jeff1138 directly.

many years ago, kalamatee updated gallium, but nothing more was heard of this update, I remember that it was close to doing so on abiv0, but then it didn't, in any case, at the moment it's better to stay with cards that, although obsolete, don't cost so much and give a higher performance in terms of resolution

Hi,

In a new thread is ok or add it directly to the wiki but you would need to sign up if you do not want your ip showing for each entry?

https://en.wikibo...er_Account

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