Hi xboxown, Nice to hear you're so enthousiastic, that sure will help :-) Actually the installation process itself is described perfectly in the icaros desktop manual. The (new 2.0) manual can be downloaded from [url=http://www.icarosdesktop.com/icarosfiles/IcarosDesktop_manual.pdf]here[/url], but should also be located on your icaros DVD that you got. The installation process is described in chapter 2. Make sure you read it (all) before doing an actual installation. (usually i have another second machine on which i've opened this PDF, so i can follow it step-by-step during installation :D ). Assuming you have a icaros 2.0 DVD and you can boot from that DVD, you insert the DVD in your machine and startup (or reboot) your computer and follow the instructions in the manual that describes the installation process of installing icaros onto your internal hard-disk. Now, there are a couple of notes for your situation. Since you already have an old icaros installed, it is important to realize that you want to be able to boot from your dvd (and not that the boot-dvd recognizes internal old icaros partition and take stuff from there). In order to make sure that things happen as planned, the easiest would be to change the boot order in your bios. Make sure it firstly boots from the dvd and only from internal HD as second (or not at all, but that option is not available in every bios). Make sure to write down any (original configured) BIOS options that you are changing so that you are able to revert). Once you have that sorted out, you should be able to install without problems. Please also follow ncafferkey's advise, and make sure to wipe your whole (internal) HD, and make new partitions (they can stay the same size as you had for icaros 1.5.x, just simply re-make them). This is also described in the manual. In case installing does give you troubles then the most likely cause is that the device number you try to install icaros onto is incorrect (that in combination with the chosen device, sata/ata/ide/usb ). The manual has nice pictures to go with that, but feel free to ask in case you are not sure. The good thing is, you want to replace your existing installation anyhows, so in that case there's absolutely nothing that you could do wrong (in relation to loosing something that you do not want to get lost). Just make sure you haven't attached other external ( usb ) hard-drives, pen-drives and/or sd-cards (if any). In case the installation process (still) does fail for you, please mention the error that was presented to you and what options you chose during installation (just write them down, it only will take you about five minutes to do so). Alternatively you could make some pictures with a digital camera and attach those in case you keep running into troubles. If everything succeeded (as planned) you must make sure to change the boot-order in your bios again, to make sure Icaros will (initially) be booted from the internal HD. Additional notes apply in case you do not ave an internal dvd/cd rom, but choose to attach an external one by using USB, in which case you must make sure that you don't have any other USB devices inserted (including keyboard mice). In the past this helped a lot for people having USB problems, and is only required during the installation process (you can use usb devices later once installation finished successfully). In any case, when installing from USB then please DO NOT USE A HUB >>> EVER <<< Hopefully this gives you enough information to be able to continue. In case it doesn't then please feel free to ask for further help. Good Luck ! PS: in case you opt for installing from a USB pen-drive, paolone wrote that in the manual as well, and recently wrote another blogpost about it [url=http://vmwaros.blogspot.it/2014/11/installing-icaros-from-usb-pendrive.html]here[/url].

[quote][url=http://arosworld.org/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=101&pid=603#post_603][b]magorium wrote:[/b][/url] hi xboxown, Sorry to hear you keep getting into troubles (more or less). The first thing i noticed in your post is [quote]xboxown wrote: .... so it installed it on top of the old icaros 1.5.1. [/quote] And looking at previous reports on that, i came across [url=http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=90921#forumpost90921]this advise from ncafferkey[/url]: [quote]ncafferkey wrote: It would be safer to use a brand new HD image, or at least repartition the old one. At one time, there were bugs in the partitioning software of previous AROS versions. [/quote] Which brings us to the second thing i noticed in your post: [quote]xboxown wrote: The problem when I installed icaros 2.0 is that it would not allow me to format the HD... [/quote] Which shouldn't happen. Assuming the bios does not has bootblock or other write protection activated (e.g. bios anti-virus), it would be helpful to know what error message you get exactly when you try to install (and which you stated is not possible). Are we still talking about the machine you got from phoenixkonsole or are we talking about a completely different machine here ? Reason to ask is that i have some tricks up my sleeve to try to attack that issue, but i do not want you to loose any boot-partition in case you have another OS installed besides AROS. You can at least be almost 100% certain that all the other problems you reported originates from a faulty/buggy filesystem/partition on your AROS boot disk, causing all sort of negative side-effects which seems unrelated (but trust me they are). Also be aware that having installed Icaros onto hd and leaving the dvd/cd or usb pen-drive (which both can boot as well) can cause all kinds of issues when inserted during boot (especially when the boot-priority in the bios is not set to boot from internal hd). In that case it can look as you started from HD but actually you didn't. That's why the installation specifically mention to remove the installation media before doing a reboot. (the last paragraph i just put there just in case, so in case you was already aware then please ignore that part).[/quote] Yes I am talking about the machine I got from phoenixkonsole :) Give me your diagnostic doctor :) I don't care if I need to read 10 pages article of step by step what I need to do to get this system up and running I am all ears, please tell me :) I am fully eager to get it 100% functional ones and for all so i can start enjoying watching movies and videos in the bus using this device. Right now it have not left the home ever since it arrived due to it's not ready yet. I cannot transfer files from pc to it, I cannot access the internet, no usb stick work, no burned cd work..this is not correct. I am 100% for sure don't want to go to downgrade either. I want to format the main sys HD and install icaros 2.0 and start fresh but I can't seem too!

hi xboxown, Sorry to hear you keep getting into troubles (more or less). The first thing i noticed in your post is [quote]xboxown wrote: .... so it installed it on top of the old icaros 1.5.1. [/quote] And looking at previous reports on that, i came across [url=http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=90921#forumpost90921]this advise from ncafferkey[/url]: [quote]ncafferkey wrote: It would be safer to use a brand new HD image, or at least repartition the old one. At one time, there were bugs in the partitioning software of previous AROS versions. [/quote] Which brings us to the second thing i noticed in your post: [quote]xboxown wrote: The problem when I installed icaros 2.0 is that it would not allow me to format the HD... [/quote] Which shouldn't happen. Assuming the bios does not has bootblock or other write protection activated (e.g. bios anti-virus), it would be helpful to know what error message you get exactly when you try to install (and which you stated is not possible). Are we still talking about the machine you got from phoenixkonsole or are we talking about a completely different machine here ? Reason to ask is that i have some tricks up my sleeve to try to attack that issue, but i do not want you to loose any boot-partition in case you have another OS installed besides AROS. You can at least be almost 100% certain that all the other problems you reported originates from a faulty/buggy filesystem/partition on your AROS boot disk, causing all sort of negative side-effects which seems unrelated (but trust me they are). Also be aware that having installed Icaros onto hd and leaving the dvd/cd or usb pen-drive (which both can boot as well) can cause all kinds of issues when inserted during boot (especially when the boot-priority in the bios is not set to boot from internal hd). In that case it can look as you started from HD but actually you didn't. That's why the installation specifically mention to remove the installation media before doing a reboot. (the last paragraph i just put there just in case, so in case you was already aware then please ignore that part).

I purchased the external DVD-ROM and installed icaros 2.0. Ever since I installed it I am having a major problem getting the system back to the internet online. It just does not work period. I followed your advice and nothing is working on it. The problem when I installed icaros 2.0 is that it would not allow me to format the HD so it installed it on top of the old icaros 1.5.1. The system runs 100%, there is nothing wrong with it however the only thing I cannot get working is the internet. Second problem I have is that if I put an external DVD-ROM and put any burned disc except for the icaros 2.0 DVD-ROM it does not detect that disc. If I put an 8 GB USB memory stick icaros 2.0 produce jibberish for the name and jibberish files that cannot be excuted with jibberish type. Everything about is jibbiersh and there ar elike jibbiersh file sizes and there will be hundreds of jibberish, garbage files even if I put it back into my windows machine the memory stick is empty. I don't know what is wrong here! Any help would be greatly appreciate it!

Tbh i find it rather eerie quiet (except for my mailbox getting stuffed), so i don't think you'll be adding too much snow ;) Thanks for having mentioned it on amigaworld, so that ncafferkey was able to make a suggestion. I really hope that's the culprit for your case. In that regards i can only suggest to play with these kind of settings as both AROS and VitualBox tend to have problems with some of these configuration (and combinations). Would you mind reporting back on that suggestion ncaffferkey did ? It would aid tremendously for others facing the same issue. (i rather avoid upgrading my vbox installation atm).

Hey Magorium, Thanks for the heads-up. I have checked the thread about icaros 2.0 problems and I didn't want to add to the rolling snow ball. This issue seemed different than all the others. It works fine, just the sound gives me grief but the environment is a little different (MACPro with Yosemite and VitualBox 4.3.18 r96516). I have AspireOS on a HP Mini 1000 and to be honest I find it a lot more stable than any Icaros version and nicer to the eye. I just can make the internal Wifi work (no drivers and yes I know there are external USB solutions to it). I like the new look and feel of ICAROS 2.0, I'll keep poking at it and maybe I get to peek more about it (I just made a peek/poke joke, get it? LOL never mind I am just geeking-out now). Any-who! More testing, testing, and more testing...

Sorry to say that i haven't. Due to problems with VirtualBox concerning USB i sticked to old VBox version. In case you are unable to solve, please also consider posting on a-e forums. PS: i just had another look at vbox forums and drats what a mess, loads of issues with 4.3.18, full-screen, windows host hardening problems, problems with snapshots, networking, etc. etc. etc. If it works for you then please keep on using this version, otherwise i would recommend to revert back (if possible). My vbox motto: if you have a working version running, no matter how old, then stick to it unless you are willing to play beta-tester... :S PPS: in case you are able to, please consider also checking icaros 1.5.2 or AspireOS to see if that does work for you with that audio driver.

Has anyone tried the newly released ICAROS 2.0 under latest version of VirtualBox? The particular problem I am having is with ICH AC97. Icaros detects it but when I play a test sound, it shortly plays and then freezes the AHI window. The other sound drivers from VirtualBox are not detected by ICAROS.

Ok, thank you very much for sharing xboxown. :thumbsup: Although i suggested it, i didn't realize you purchased hw from phoenixkonsole :) (at least i assume you did given the msg you posted ;) )

From the person where I purchased the machine from replied to my situation: Hi, Please go to prefab folder and open network settings. You need to choose the atheros.device as driver. Save this and make sure that the checkbox "enable networks tack at boot" is enabled. After that you can use the wifi icon to choose your network. Alternatively you can use the wireless tab in network prefs. I am underway but you can also check Icaros manual in "myworkplace/documents/ There should be a description with images if I remember correctly. If this doesn't help I will upload a video tomorrow on YouTube to show the steps. Von meinem iPhone gesendet ---- It helped!

Hi xboxown, congratulations on getting things to work :thumbsup: You know what would be a big help to others ? if you would be able to share what it is exactly that went wrong the first time you tried. Do you have any idea what you did differently this time to get things to work ? Knowing this (and sharing with others) help others facing the same problem. And please don't feel embarrassed in case it was just something you forgot or perhaps due too impatience. It's a learning process for most of us ;)

Hi xboxown, You have to pardon my icaros 2.0 ignorance as it is so fresh that i still haven't figured out where everything is located :D In the old 1.5 2 icaors desktop manual there is a special chapter about installing icaros to a USB pen-drive. You have two options: Either install icaros as 'real' os (can be a full icaros install) and boot your pendrive on the machine you want to install icaros to. then you can run the installer. This will give you a bare minimum AROS installation on the machine (depending on your pendrive installation), but you can add files from the iso (manually and at any time). The second option is to create a special install usb pendrive (also described in icaros desktop 1.5.2 manual). This installs a bare minimal icaros to the pendrive, but in opposite to the earlier mentioned method will contains all installation files (archives). You boot that pendrive on the machine on which you want to install aros and run the installation as well. Because it contains all the installation files, you do not have to manually add files, and if everything goes alright will install icaros completely to your machine. In addition to that (which i initially forgot to write) is that you need to find a wy to install to the pendrive to begin with. Amigamia already pointed out a relevant thread. In short, boot from your dvd/cd, insert pendrive and install to the pendrive, or as i usual do i install icaros firstly into a virtual machine and install to a pendrive from there. Reason to do the latter is because i can use a much more powerful machine to do that and also gives me an opportunity to check out aros/icaros in a nice protected environment. Strictly technically speaking you could also reach the same goal by using the qemu virtualization that is accompanied with the icaros dvd archive (.exe which is actually a .7z file which can be extracted and contains qemu as well). But i hardly use qemu myself. Th process is described either in the icaros desktop manual, on icarosdesktop.org blog or aros-exec.org forums (sorry, i don't recall where exactly). (please do note amigamia's thread and wiping your pendrive in case of troubles. few people experience this issue). In the hope its helpfull,

[quote][url=http://arosworld.org/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=99&pid=590#post_590][b]xboxown wrote:[/b][/url] I am right now download icaros version 2.0 in 52 minutes it will be in my HD. My question, if I want to put this in memory stick and then install it from my memory stick to my main HD how do I go about doing that? Thanks in advance.[/quote] Take a look at this forum thread: [url]http://arosworld.org/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=89&highlight=USB&pid=510#post_507[/url]

It worked! it worked! it worked! I have access to the inteeerneeet yess yess yess!!

I am right now download icaros version 2.0 in 52 minutes it will be in my HD. My question, if I want to put this in memory stick and then install it from my memory stick to my main HD how do I go about doing that? Thanks in advance.

[quote][url=http://arosworld.org/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=98&pid=587#post_587][b]magorium wrote:[/b][/url] Hi xboxown, Unfortunately i have little hands on experience with wifi, and i am also not aware of the availability of a step by step guide for setting up wireless. One thing you should be aware of (in case you haven't already) is that it is currently not possible to have more then 1 NIC active at the same time. according to [url=http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&type=&topic_id=8624&forum=1]what i've read[/url] wpa2 should not be a problem. Maybe [url=http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=72184#forumpost72184]ncafferkey's scanning tool[/url] can aid a little as well. Setting up wireless shouldn't be much different than configuring for wired, so the [url=http://www.icarosdesktop.com/icarosfiles/IcarosDesktop_manual.pdf]icaros desktop manual[/url] (chapter 4.4) might be helpful (just apply for wireless instead of wired). Also be aware that it sometimes takes a while for a network to connect (even for wired it sometimes takes 1-2 minutes for AROS to catch on and being able to detect all my network adapters/peripherals), sometimes wireless can behave even more slowly in that regards (so that might up being too impatient, even when you're doing everything ok). Please feel free to report/ask in case of troubles, that usually is easier for me to find an answer for than to try write a step by step guide for you (especially as i cannot check myself atm as i have no AROS wireless supported card available). Maybe you're in luck an someone else around is able to provide more information for you. In any way good luck and don't hesitate to ask for help when running into trouble. Please just try to mention what steps you took and what exactly is going wrong for you).[/quote] I downloaded the program from the link you send me and I even transferred it to my laptop and nothing happened. No sign of activity shows it worked and on top of that when I went into network prefs and clicked use nothing happened. No new user interface nothing and still could not connect to WiFi. Before I go further into this I want to install icaros 2.0 first then attempt WiFi.

Hi xboxown, Unfortunately i have little hands on experience with wifi, and i am also not aware of the availability of a step by step guide for setting up wireless. One thing you should be aware of (in case you haven't already) is that it is currently not possible to have more then 1 NIC active at the same time. according to [url=http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&type=&topic_id=8624&forum=1]what i've read[/url] wpa2 should not be a problem. Maybe [url=http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=72184#forumpost72184]ncafferkey's scanning tool[/url] can aid a little as well. Setting up wireless shouldn't be much different than configuring for wired, so the [url=http://www.icarosdesktop.com/icarosfiles/IcarosDesktop_manual.pdf]icaros desktop manual[/url] (chapter 4.4) might be helpful (just apply for wireless instead of wired). Also be aware that it sometimes takes a while for a network to connect (even for wired it sometimes takes 1-2 minutes for AROS to catch on and being able to detect all my network adapters/peripherals), sometimes wireless can behave even more slowly in that regards (so that might up being too impatient, even when you're doing everything ok). Please feel free to report/ask in case of troubles, that usually is easier for me to find an answer for than to try write a step by step guide for you (especially as i cannot check myself atm as i have no AROS wireless supported card available). Maybe you're in luck an someone else around is able to provide more information for you. In any way good luck and don't hesitate to ask for help when running into trouble. Please just try to mention what steps you took and what exactly is going wrong for you).

I purchased that laptop that is 100% compatible with icaros including wifi. My question is I am using telus and it is using security wpa2 with encryption aes and I don't know how to connect my icaros to wifi support? Thanks in advance. If there is a step by step guide to help me do this it would be sweet!

[quote][url=http://arosworld.org/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=96&pid=580#post_580][b]cavemann wrote:[/b][/url] I use another partition for games and stuff. When I update the Os, I only format the system partition and not the partition with all the apps I want to keep. Or if you prefer, use an Usb stick for the system and only update it. Then use your internal drive for your own files.[/quote] No! :) I would rather very high speed boot up time and I want my icaros on a HD as it is my main and only OS I want installed in the HD. I will make three paritions. 1) Parition SYS: (4 GB) 2) Work: (20 GB) 3) Games (rest) Of course depending on the available space it will fluctuate to that.

I use another partition for games and stuff. When I update the Os, I only format the system partition and not the partition with all the apps I want to keep. Or if you prefer, use an Usb stick for the system and only update it. Then use your internal drive for your own files.