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Irritating bug of the month - March 2024

Last updated on 1 month ago

Poll: IBOTM - March 2024

    #135 (AHCI- only 7.9 GB allocated out of disk) [9/19]47 %
    #125 (You can access a drawer icon even if the directory assigned to it does not exist) [3/19]16 %
    #120 (Incorrect Leave Out and Put away behavior if it involves icons from USB flash drive) [0/19]0 %
    #116 (Wanderer: Allow deleting by pressing Del key) [5/19]26 %
    #105 (DiskInfo showing OFS instead of FAT) [1/19]5 %
    #25 (Shell won't open from icon that leave out) [1/19]5 %
Amiwell79Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
I started up the system in full achi I'll send you the relevant information
Edited by Amiwell79 on 22-03-2024 09:41, 1 month ago
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 1 month ago
@Amiwell79

Your PCITool output shows that SATA chipset is now in RAID mode, not AHCI mode. ahci.device will not detect your disk in RAID mode.
Amiwell79Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
ok
Amiwell79Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
unfortunately, my computer only supports ide emulation and raid+achi
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago

deadwood wrote:

@deadwood - @AMIGASYSTEM

Please try using base 20220318-1 system with 0.9b ahci.device.


Tested 20220318-1 + 0.9b ahci.device from PenDrive Live USB !

Results are "Identical" to those found with AROS One 2.4, practically same errors !

Installing AROS if run "fast" will send the system to freeze, if you wait a few seconds after Wanderer has finished loading the Freeze seems not to happen.

As you can see from the screenshot if you try to set "Wipe Disk" with "SATA/AHCI", the system crashes, and the error request appears, with 20220318-1 a Guru also appeared.

From the screenshot you can also see that HDToolBox detects the entire size of the SSD Disk
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 1 month ago
Two questions:

1) What are the results of Wipe operation with ahci.device found on 20220318-1
2) Can you show me the first page of InstallAROS (where you select Wipe option) before clicking "Next" (so before the error in shell is shown and InstallAROS crashes)

Also please export PCITool info to a file so that I can see what hardware you are running.
Edited by deadwood on 22-03-2024 12:47, 1 month ago
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
With ahci.device originally included on 20220318-1, same thing happens, same error shown with new ahci.device

I attach 2 screenshots !

- The first one shows what you requested where I select the option Wipe Disk

- The second again using "20220318-1" with ahci.device orinary, you can see5e that a strange thing happens, basically on the Workbench the icon of a (CD1) appears "momentarily", then the icon seems to disappear.

On the PC in questine, there is no CD in the CD drive, with AROS One it seems not to happen.
Edited by AMIGASYSTEM on 22-03-2024 13:13, 1 month ago
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 1 month ago
Hmm, appearing of CD1.. that is very strange...

Is the AHCI/SATA autoselected when you start InstallAROS or do you select that manually?

Please also attach listing of devices from PCITool.
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miker1264Software Dev
Posted 1 month ago
What is the capacity of the SATA drive you are trying to partition just to make sure it's not a disk size issue. I find that if the SATA drive is over 128GB then partitioning will likely fail to work.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
No miker, the partition dedicated to AROS is 97.6 GB,
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 1 month ago
FYI, for testing I used a 230GB SATA SSD and I was able to partition it - AROS just creates a 128GB partition and leaves rest of disk space unasigned.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
On my PCs I always create a DualBoot, with the Windows installer I create a partition for Win7/Win10, and then leave a "RAW" partition that AROS will use as its Hardisk.

Done this many times on many PCs and never had problems, maybe I will have an unsupported SSD ?
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 1 month ago

AMIGASYSTEM wrote:

@AMIGASYSTEM - On my PCs I always create a DualBoot, with the Windows installer I create a partition for Win7/Win10, and then leave a "RAW" partition that AROS will use as its Hardisk.

Done this many times on many PCs and never had problems, maybe I will have an unsupported SSD ?


I don't understand this. When you use WIPE option you will delete your Windows partition so why are you refering to dual boot?

Also the screen shot from HDToolBox shows that partition table is not recognized, suggesting this is empty. Was this really an empty disk?
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
No Wipe Disk, if it finds a virgin "RAW" partition, it will ignore the partitions initialized by Windows, and will install only on that partition and will create the DualBoot, it is a safe operation done dozens of times and never was Windows deleted !

I can make you a video showing what I write !

Window is destroyed if the partition dedicated to AROS is initialized by Windows (FAT32/NTFS), in which case WipeDisk will destroy the Windows partition
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 1 month ago
In post #45 you said that you use use Wipe option.

Yes, it's better if you make a video showing all actions you are doing. Please make the video using 0.9b ahci.device.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
I attach video created directly on AROS One, as you can see the partitions dedicated to Win10 will not be touched/deleted by "Wipe Disk"

I use this procedure also when I install a new version of AROS One, in this case I format from Wanderer the AROS volume and then from InstallAROS I choose "Use existing AROS Partitions ..."

The video is not quality because the VESA Video Card is too slow to record a quality video !
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 1 month ago
Ok, thanks for the video.

First, please provide me with the export of PCITool of your current hardware (before making any changes)

Then please confirm that Wipe option works correctly when you switch SATA to IDE compatibility mode.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
If I disable "ahci" from the Bios of the PC under discussion, Win10 generates error and will not boot, possibly I can do this test on a PC where DualBoot AROS/Windows is installed in IDE mode.

In any case if important I still do the Test on that PC, maybe to use Windows each time I will have to change the Bios.

As soon as I get home I will send you the PCITool data.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 1 month ago
I attach PCITool Log.

Done quelche tests on the PC in question, from the BIOS it is only possible to disable "ahci" (see screeshot BIOS), but it does not provide IDE enablement, although I think it should have been obvious.

If from the Bios I Disable "ahci", as mentioned Win10 (installed in "ahci" mode) will not boot generating errors on the operating system.

If with "ahci" Disabled, I try to start the Live Pendrive with AROS One which includes the new "ahci.device 0.9b", AROS One starts, but without the wallpaper and applications do not work.

On the other hand, if still with "ahci" Disabled, I try to start the Live Pendrive with AROS One that includes the old/original build "ahci.device", AROS One "won't start", it remains black screen !
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 1 month ago
Ok, if I understand you correctly you have two PCs;

First one is where you have AROS installed over IDE (ata.device) and dual boot with Windows

Second, the one which BIOS screen shot you've shown and where installation over ahci.device does not work.

Is this correct understaning?
If yes, have you ever had AROS installed on the Second PC?
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