[quote][url=http://arosworld.org/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=95&pid=748#post_748][b]slygon wrote:[/b][/url] Now if I could just figure out the parts to build a good AROS desktop, I would do that! I just see way too many vague references in the hardware lists! I would really love to have 3D support for AROS as I can't get that using virtualization software. [/quote] Here's another vague reference. I have a gf8400 and 3d works fine on my Aros desktop. Most of the 7xxx, 8xxx, and 9xxx series work okay. There are exceptions, so I can't say that you are safe to get one of these, even another model gf8400. But these cards are old enough that you should be able to try one at low cost :) good luck !

Thanks. The more I look at it, the more I think it will be a problem... Which is too bad, that would be a great price for a new small AROS/ICAROS laptop, and the hardware is getting good reviews for being so cheap! Now if I could just figure out the parts to build a good AROS desktop, I would do that! I just see way too many vague references in the hardware lists! I would really love to have 3D support for AROS as I can't get that using virtualization software.

modern intel graphics chipsets are (currently) not supported. Some other concerns about that specific laptop: - Only a few wireless chipsets are supported. Even revision changes can cause AROS to fail. If you can replace the wireless card then ok, otherwise i would leave the laptop alone. Also because you say it has no wired connection. - AROS seems to have problems with certain SSD setups, current status: unknown what causes it. - The webcam will not work without writing a driver for it. That's all i could think of atm. fwiw: especially searching for a laptop that is 100% supported by AROS is a pita, and would probably end up in something like an older model eeepc or a netbook that has similar hardware.

If you find out what kind of Intel video card it has, you can see if it is listed here [url]http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_support[/url] There seems to be some Intel 2D and 3D support but doesn't state which type. It only says: [ulist=disc][i]Intel 2D and 3D. 2D for many netbooks and motherboards. 3D for a few early netbooks and motherboards[/i][/ulist]

Thanks! I run Icaros in VMWare on my current laptop now... it works fine... but I would really like something native... just for fun! I can't find what wireless it has either... It doesn't have a wired network card in it... I will keep digging on that one! As for video, that was something I wasn't sure on... AROS/ICAROS doesn't support the Intel integrated video natively? Thanks again!

And by the way.. Welcome to AROS World! ;) Ask/Post in here until your fingers hurt from typing :D

[quote][url=http://arosworld.org/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=95&pid=741#post_741][b]slygon wrote:[/b][/url] I was wondering if anyone has tried one of the new HP Stream 11" laptops with ICAROS or any other AROS flavor... at $199.00, it seems like a good little AROS machine... Now, I am a complete AROS/ICAROS newbie... I am just starting to figure things out, so I don't know if the hardware in the laptop is compatible... Has anyone tried this?[/quote] It looks like a nifty little laptop but I think the video will only run in VESA mode since it is an Intel HD integrated type. I can't find what type of wireless and Ethernet card it has but those are your most important things to take in consideration IMO. A computer without network support is as good as doorstop in the modern era. You could always run Aros/Icaros in VIrtual Box/VMWare Player/Qemu on top of Windows/Linux and still have a great laptop on your hands.

I was wondering if anyone has tried one of the new HP Stream 11" laptops with ICAROS or any other AROS flavor... at $199.00, it seems like a good little AROS machine... Now, I am a complete AROS/ICAROS newbie... I am just starting to figure things out, so I don't know if the hardware in the laptop is compatible... Has anyone tried this?

Thats a tiny screen . . . Hurts my eyes just thinking about it! . . . LOL So, what is it?

Congratz with your new machine xboxown. Hopefully you'll enjoy it and that you are able to get out of it what you expect. [quote]how do I go upgrading to icaros 2.0 from icaros 1.5.1 without losing any data or require a new blank installation?[/quote] That's a tough one to answer, as icaros 2.0 was not released yet ;-p But, if past is any telling about future then that would mean a new fresh clean install for icaros desktop 2.0 (once it arrives). Icaros does have support for backing up personal settings, but i am not sure if that's compatible with the new icaros 2.0 release. Anyhows, i would suggest to keep good track of where exactly you've placed your own (custom) data and backup data that before doing a new install and after that restore the backup. There is some (experimental?) software in the aros-archives that could aid in backing up, but i do not have hand-on experience with it (it's using scripting). Unfortunately there isn't a real back-up program available for AROS, so you have to do that using forementioned scripts, or doing things manually by copying files or archive things first with one of the many archivers available for AROS. fwiw: it can't hurt to do a fresh install once in a while anyhows. But it is also reason for me to not update icaros too often and having my own custom install. BTW: Easiest way to backup is either inserting an usb pendrive, using a network facility (ftp or otherwise), or ofcourse using an additional HD (either directly connected or by USB/network).

I purchased the tiny 8" screen laptop that is compatible with icaros!! It is coming in it's way and I did it!! I have purchased a tiny, portable console with icaros as the OS. That is what I did! I will fill with GBs and GBs worth of games! I will fill it with as much as MP3 as possible! I will fill it with as much movies as possible! I have a tiny console! Tiny keyboard based console and a tiny portable media center! I will just make sure it is 100% fully charged when I take it outside with me! Oh one more thing! It will only have icaros as the OS and nothing else....so I am looking forward for icaros 2.0. One question only! What if icaros 2.0 get released and I have the old version icaros 1.5.1 for example, how do I go upgrading to icaros 2.0 from icaros 1.5.1 without losing any data or require a new blank installation?

THANK YOU GUYS ALL FOR EVERYTHING!! This is exactly what I need!! I do not care if the screen size is only 8" and the hardware is way outdated I just do not have the space anymore for a my AROS tower PC nor do I wish to be again upstairs in my bedroom to use it. I really like to have the convenience to go anywhere to use it, heck I even like to watch movies on that machine on the bus and the small size 8" is perfect portability for that! Now the only problem is finding the hardware! THANK YOU GUYS! I am going to use AROS 2.0 as my Amiga alternative :D AROS 2.0 is what AmigaOS 4.1 should have being, an x86 Amiga! THANKS again guys for everything!

@xboxown In addition to what amigamiga suggested, be aware that even in the same model range, revisions of chips might have changed. Especially for wireless sometimes even the brand of used chips changed. So, even though it seems you obtain the same hardware, (in the worst case scenario) things might differ that causes things to fail for AROS. Best would be to to choose a laptop model that you can replace the wifi card or alternatively take into account having to add f.e. an wifi usb adapter as backup solution. aspireos.com page [url=https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/about-aspire-one]here[/url] has some more info. Alternatively you can peek at phoenikonsole's shop (or buy from). [url=http://www.ares-shop.de/product_info.php?products_id=36&XTCsid=pv9lk8jthacd1taf1bb20l4km3]here[/url] is an example.

Or Aspire One AOA110 (A110) (ZG5)

[quote][url=http://arosworld.org/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=95&pid=567#post_567][b]xboxown wrote:[/b][/url] I am looking for a good laptop that icaros supports 100% including WiFi! Does anybody know of a laptop that I can buy in eBay that works with icaros, even the new coming version 2.0 that supports WiFi? Thanks in advance![/quote] I don't know how current this is but take a look at this page: [url]http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_Complete_System_HCL[/url] Looks like the Satellite A200 may satisfy all components, including WiFi.

I am looking for a good laptop that icaros supports 100% including WiFi! Does anybody know of a laptop that I can buy in eBay that works with icaros, even the new coming version 2.0 that supports WiFi? Thanks in advance!

I agree with Trans . . . :)

Yes, I want to see a $50 to $100 AROS on a stick device.

Great news emeck. Using Aros native is so much nicer (i think). Glad you were able to find a solution that works for you and welcome into the land of the lounge lizards :D

@all my Icaros box is also connected now to my wifi router through a wifi expander with an ethernet port. Works nice! No need to run the VM in Debian now to connect to internet with AROS B)