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Icaros 1.5.2 - GrafX2

Last updated on 11 years ago
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Cardboard_SphinxNewbie
Posted 11 years ago
Hi,
I recently installed Icaros 1.5.2 on an old pc and have a little trouble with GrafX2 that came with the download. It continually makes backups even though I have changed the setting to no backup and more seriously never saves the pictures I've drawn in the directories I set in the save requester. It shows the path correctly but saves the file in the last directory it has loaded from. Also I cannot click the save button I can only enter the files name and then press return in order for it to save it.
It is not the latest version which surprised me (it just has layers, no animation) but I tried downloading the latest recommended version for Aros from the GrafX2 site but it doesn't seem to run, when I click on it something flashes onto the screen and promptly closes. Am I just doing something wrong?
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magoriumSoftware Dev
Posted 11 years ago
hi Cardboard_Sphinx,

First of all a very welcome :)

Sorry to hear that grafx gives you so much grieve.

I could not reproduce your backup-issue so quickly.

Also grafx2 seems to save in the correct path for me. And i also can click the save button to do so.

Which exact version of grafx2 does that to you ?

I used version 2.3.1781 and that seems to work ok (at least for me).

When you say you downloaded the latest recommended version from the grafx2 website, can you exactly tell which version that is (a link would be appreciated). Because the latest recommended version is the version number i mentioned (and i've used).

I am not sure if you are doing something wrong or not.

If i have to take a wild guess then perhaps you downloaded grafx2 for the wrong architecture/OS (or perhaps mistakenly did download a non recommended version) ?

The AROS download page clearly states (for me that is, just to be sure :D) that 2.3.1781 is the latest stable (recommended) version, so i am a bit surprised that you mentioned a newer version being available for AROS.
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Cardboard_SphinxNewbie
Posted 11 years ago
Hello,
Magorium.
I am using version 2.3.1781 and I seem to have understood what I did wrong in saving files... but it sill make backups which I can't figure out how to stop it from doing.
What I meant about it not being the latest version is that I have the one for mac which has animation. I just thought someone would have compiled a newer version for Aros so it was up to date with other platforms. Is this difficult to do? Since the download for VAMP (good for animations which could be created in GrafX2) is not the latest version either.
Otherwise Icaros seems quite refreshing. Quirky but refreshing.
I have found it recognizes my old usb wacom Graphire Tablet which works (probably without pressure) with one oddity... I can't move open widows about, like the shell. I can use the scroll bars and gadgets on them I just can;t move them about. Any Ideas?
One other program that I'm having trouble with is LodePaint which runs too slow to be usable am I doing something wrong here also or is it just my old PC? And I only get sound after a soft reboot, why is that?
Thanks for your help.
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cavemannSoftware Dev
Posted 11 years ago
Afaik, the only way to get GrafX 2.4 for Aros is from AspireOs. Icaros does not have the latest version.

Lodepaint needs hardware acceleration to work well in Aros, and that probably means a supported NVidia card will do the trick. Of course, a beefy cpu wouldn't hurt.

Also, have you tried to tap-drag to move windows like when using a laptop pad. Hope it works.
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magoriumSoftware Dev
Posted 11 years ago
@Cardboard_Sphinx:

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I am using version 2.3.1781 and I seem to have understood what I did wrong in saving files...

It is a bit of a hassle, i agree. But the slash is automatically entered, so indeed it's a bit annoying.

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but it sill make backups which I can't figure out how to stop it from doing.

Currently my arosbox is down, so i would have to get back on that for you. As told before it does not make backups for me. Only thing i am able to tell right now is that there is an option in the settings that _looks_ like it is for automatic backups, but ain't.

You need to dig a little deeper in the settings to turn that off (which i believe is off by default, but i am not sure).

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What I meant about it not being the latest version is that I have the one for mac which has animation.

Newer version almost always brings new features :-)

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I just thought someone would have compiled a newer version for Aros so it was up to date with other platforms. Is this difficult to do?

If porting (new features) would be (really) easy we would have had openoffice, Firefox, blender, etc already ;-)

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Otherwise Icaros seems quite refreshing. Quirky but refreshing.

Quircky indeed at times. Learn the quirks and you will be a happy person :D. Hopefully they will be addressed appropiately and in due time...

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I have found it recognizes my old usb wacom Graphire Tablet which works (probably without pressure) with one oddity...

That's very cool. Please try Cavemanns advise, although i have owned a tablet i currently don't anymore. afaik the internal handling of (pressure) tablets are not supported atm.

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One other program that I'm having trouble with is LodePaint which runs too slow to be usable am I doing something wrong here also or is it just my old PC?

As Cavemann wrote: lodepaint requires a suported videocard or a _very_ fast machine. It really isn't workable for me as well (as i lack either, 4GHZ does not seem to be enough).

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And I only get sound after a soft reboot, why is that?

No, idea tbh. Maybe you can look/search at the aros-exec forums to see if someone else reported similar issue(s) (most prefarably with the same hardware).

Sometimes it helps to put the queury parameter in the settings. But that is a longshot.

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Thanks for your help.

No problem at all. Hopefully my answers are usefull, if not then just say so or verify with others ;)

@cavemann:
Thanks for that intell, i didn't know that. I useually use AspireOS for some quick c-code related stuff and (modified) Icaros for the rest of my things.
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Cardboard_SphinxNewbie
Posted 11 years ago
Hi again,
Found I can move open windows with Graphire Tablet by pressing left Aros & left alt keys at same time and moving the pen above but not touching the surface, then releasing them.

Installed the GrafX2 build from Aros Aspire (thanks cavemann) and it is indeed a more recent "Dragons Layers" edition which has layers and animation and seems to solve my endless backups problem,

Program version:2.4.2035
Build options: TTF fonts
Lua version: Disabled

but I was wondering why Lua was Disabled?
Is there anyway to enable it or would that require another build?

A Few more questions I'm afraid...

I made a nice distinctive icon for XAMOS programs I've made called,
"Def_xamos.info"
which I put in,
"AROSPfftrefs/Env-Archive/SYS"
But how do I make it the default Icon for displaying any file that ends in .xamos?

Another thing, when I am using setpencolor to change some screen colors it seems to reverse the first 2 and last 2 characters in hexadecimal for the displayed color

ie: to get FFFFE8 (a light sandy colour) one has to enter E8FFFF?

also setpencolor says you can use R,G,B instead but I can't seem to get it to recognize R,G,B, for example

c:setpencolor SCREEN="Workbench" PEN=5 COLOR=255,225,232 >NIL:
or
c:setpencolor SCREEN="Workbench" PEN=5 COLOR="255,225,232" >NIL:
or
c:setpencolor SCREEN="Workbench" PEN=5 COLOR=(255,225,232) >NIL:

doesn't work.

One more thing, what fonts can I install so that iI can use them in programs like Annotate & Editor, since TTF fonts don't seem to show up in their requesters?

Oh, and I still only get sound after a soft reboot.
Thanks.
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magoriumSoftware Dev
Posted 11 years ago

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Cardboard_Sphinx wrote:

Hi again,
Found I can move open windows with Graphire Tablet by pressing left Aros & left alt keys at same time and moving the pen above but not touching the surface, then releasing them.

Sounds like ordinairy mouse control with the keyboard to me. For example pressing the right amiga alt triggers the menu for me (so it acts like right mouse click).

I'm unsure about the use/support for graphic tablets. I know some of them work, but do not know to what degree. It could perhaps be worth checking out trident (usb preferences) to see if you can map some of the tablet controls. But since i do not have any hw to check myself it could be that you are unable to.

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but I was wondering why Lua was Disabled?
Is there anyway to enable it or would that require another build?

I have no idea. I suspect it requires a new build, but it could be just as well that something is not detecting lua properly. Better ask the porter/builder of the latest version (or ask nikolaos)


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A Few more questions I'm afraid...

Meaning you want to learn, so that's good :D

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I made a nice distinctive icon for XAMOS programs I've made called,
"Def_xamos.info"
which I put in,
"AROS:Prefs/Env-Archive/SYS"
But how do I make it the default Icon for displaying any file that ends in .xamos?

I might be wrong here, but as far as my memory goes this can only be done with so called project icon and when a datatype for xamos would be in place. The 'system' would then recognize it automatically.
AROS itself gives no special meaning to filename extensions.

Better check with someone else on this matter to make sure or dive into aros-exec.org posts

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Another thing, when I am using setpencolor to change some screen colors it seems to reverse the first 2 and last 2 characters in hexadecimal for the displayed color

ie: to get FFFFE8 (a light sandy colour) one has to enter E8FFFF?

Correct.

The setpencolor utility wants its colors in BBGGRR format (where every character is a hexadecimal nibble. B stands for blue component, R for red and G for green).

It's old style amiga legacy (and hapilly annoys pc users) ;)


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also setpencolor says you can use R,G,B instead but I can't seem to get it to recognize R,G,B, for example

c:setpencolor SCREEN="Workbench" PEN=5 COLOR=255,225,232 >NIL:
or
c:setpencolor SCREEN="Workbench" PEN=5 COLOR="255,225,232" >NIL:
or
c:setpencolor SCREEN="Workbench" PEN=5 COLOR=(255,225,232) >NIL:

doesn't work.

Correct that it didn't work fro you.

It's: SetPenColor R=80 G=100 B=100
or: SetPenColor R 80 G 100 B 100

But it has a caveat. It is not the actual R,G or B value but expressed in percentage. So a value 100 would mean
100%, corresponding with a value of $FF (or #255).

This is because the function used to set the color this way, uses a 32 bit intensityvalue per color component (making a color value 96 bits wide, which is a bit overcomplicated to implement it, like you seem to expect now).

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One more thing, what fonts can I install so that iI can use them in programs like Annotate & Editor, since TTF fonts don't seem to show up in their requesters?

afaik you cannot. Editors like Annotate (that one i know best) expect non proportional fonts. TTF fonts are proportional (with few exceptions).

If you really like to experiment with other fonts then i would suggest getting some (bitmapped fonts) from aminet


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Oh, and I still only get sound after a soft reboot.

Try removing or setting the query line in prefs (manually). More details on this can be found on aros-exec.org (as ncafferkey is the specialist concerning this kind of matters)
Edited by magorium on 04-07-2013 07:11, 11 years ago
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