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Irritating bug of the month - March 2024

Last updated on 8 months ago

Poll: IBOTM - March 2024

    #135 (AHCI- only 7.9 GB allocated out of disk) [9/19]47 %
    #125 (You can access a drawer icon even if the directory assigned to it does not exist) [3/19]16 %
    #120 (Incorrect Leave Out and Put away behavior if it involves icons from USB flash drive) [0/19]0 %
    #116 (Wanderer: Allow deleting by pressing Del key) [5/19]26 %
    #105 (DiskInfo showing OFS instead of FAT) [1/19]5 %
    #25 (Shell won't open from icon that leave out) [1/19]5 %
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
@deadwood

About "Wipe Disk" was not referring to my Hardware, it was a kind of "warning" for all those who would like to do a DualBoot, to be careful not to destroy Windows or other OS installed on the same Disk.

Regarding Bios I changed from DOS to Other, but nothing changed ! I encountered the same problem.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
@Studenteer

The problem is not the installation, but the "Wipe Disk" initialization which does not work "only" on this PC, on other PCs there is no problem installing AROS One either in DualBoot or alone.

The software you mentioned has nothing to do with "Wipe Disk" functions, which is used to initialize the partition (Write RDB, similar to MBR on Windows)
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 months ago
One thing was spotted on your BIOS photo.

You have Large Disk Access Mode set to DOS. See if changing this to Other will make ahci.device work with your disk drive.
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 months ago
I don't understand what doubts you are refering too?

The purpose of Wipe is to complete erase disk. If InstallAROS detects existing partition structure, it will default to option of "Use free space". In your case AROS is not detecting correct partition structure as seen by your screenshot of HDToolBox. Something needs to be updated in ahci.device to work with your hardware.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
Ok if I find a SATA HD available I will see to do the test with a Sata HD !

About Wipe Disk there are still doubts "that does not destroy the Windows partition" !

As said this does not happen if AROS finds and identifies a partition in any location as long as it is a "virgin" partition i.e. never initialized by any Filesystem !
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 months ago
Ok, thanks for explanation.

On Samsung R730 it's too bad we didn't test AROS with normal SATA harddisk. Then we would know if the problem is related to drive or to motherboard. There is a development of MSI (message signalled interrupts) that will come with next base system update. Maybe this will help on this PC.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
Yes they are 2 different PCs, on both there is DualBoot, I also have other PCs in DualBoot AROS/Win7 and AROS/Win10

On the PC under discussion (Samsung R730), I never installed AROS, before on this PC there was a normal Sata Hardisk, now I mounted the new SSD and wanted to do DualBoot here too, encountering the problems mentioned.
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 months ago
Ok, if I understand you correctly you have two PCs;

First one is where you have AROS installed over IDE (ata.device) and dual boot with Windows

Second, the one which BIOS screen shot you've shown and where installation over ahci.device does not work.

Is this correct understaning?
If yes, have you ever had AROS installed on the Second PC?
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
I attach PCITool Log.

Done quelche tests on the PC in question, from the BIOS it is only possible to disable "ahci" (see screeshot BIOS), but it does not provide IDE enablement, although I think it should have been obvious.

If from the Bios I Disable "ahci", as mentioned Win10 (installed in "ahci" mode) will not boot generating errors on the operating system.

If with "ahci" Disabled, I try to start the Live Pendrive with AROS One which includes the new "ahci.device 0.9b", AROS One starts, but without the wallpaper and applications do not work.

On the other hand, if still with "ahci" Disabled, I try to start the Live Pendrive with AROS One that includes the old/original build "ahci.device", AROS One "won't start", it remains black screen !
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AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
If I disable "ahci" from the Bios of the PC under discussion, Win10 generates error and will not boot, possibly I can do this test on a PC where DualBoot AROS/Windows is installed in IDE mode.

In any case if important I still do the Test on that PC, maybe to use Windows each time I will have to change the Bios.

As soon as I get home I will send you the PCITool data.
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 months ago
Ok, thanks for the video.

First, please provide me with the export of PCITool of your current hardware (before making any changes)

Then please confirm that Wipe option works correctly when you switch SATA to IDE compatibility mode.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
I attach video created directly on AROS One, as you can see the partitions dedicated to Win10 will not be touched/deleted by "Wipe Disk"

I use this procedure also when I install a new version of AROS One, in this case I format from Wanderer the AROS volume and then from InstallAROS I choose "Use existing AROS Partitions ..."

The video is not quality because the VESA Video Card is too slow to record a quality video !
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 months ago
In post #45 you said that you use use Wipe option.

Yes, it's better if you make a video showing all actions you are doing. Please make the video using 0.9b ahci.device.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
No Wipe Disk, if it finds a virgin "RAW" partition, it will ignore the partitions initialized by Windows, and will install only on that partition and will create the DualBoot, it is a safe operation done dozens of times and never was Windows deleted !

I can make you a video showing what I write !

Window is destroyed if the partition dedicated to AROS is initialized by Windows (FAT32/NTFS), in which case WipeDisk will destroy the Windows partition
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 months ago

AMIGASYSTEM wrote:

@AMIGASYSTEM - On my PCs I always create a DualBoot, with the Windows installer I create a partition for Win7/Win10, and then leave a "RAW" partition that AROS will use as its Hardisk.

Done this many times on many PCs and never had problems, maybe I will have an unsupported SSD ?


I don't understand this. When you use WIPE option you will delete your Windows partition so why are you refering to dual boot?

Also the screen shot from HDToolBox shows that partition table is not recognized, suggesting this is empty. Was this really an empty disk?
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
On my PCs I always create a DualBoot, with the Windows installer I create a partition for Win7/Win10, and then leave a "RAW" partition that AROS will use as its Hardisk.

Done this many times on many PCs and never had problems, maybe I will have an unsupported SSD ?
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 months ago
FYI, for testing I used a 230GB SATA SSD and I was able to partition it - AROS just creates a 128GB partition and leaves rest of disk space unasigned.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 months ago
No miker, the partition dedicated to AROS is 97.6 GB,
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miker1264Software Dev
Posted 8 months ago
What is the capacity of the SATA drive you are trying to partition just to make sure it's not a disk size issue. I find that if the SATA drive is over 128GB then partitioning will likely fail to work.
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 months ago
Hmm, appearing of CD1.. that is very strange...

Is the AHCI/SATA autoselected when you start InstallAROS or do you select that manually?

Please also attach listing of devices from PCITool.
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