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DeremonJunior Member
Posted 7 months agoEdited by Deremon on 27-03-2024 10:01, 7 months ago
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AMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainermiker1264Software Dev
Posted 7 months agodeadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 7 months ago
amigamiaAdminWelcome to AROSWorld Deremon! 
We are glad that you have joined and are excited to share with you everything you want to know about AROS.
We are glad that you have joined and are excited to share with you everything you want to know about AROS.
DeremonJunior Member
Posted 7 months ago@AMIGASYSTEM - Hi welcome to this, where are you from?
Actually if the ISO starts from VM it means that the bootloader is correct, probably your PC is not supported at Hardware level, have you checked HERE.
If you forward your software to aros archive, they will be already available from the "Uploads" tab anyway, as soon as possible I would like to test them on AROS One, thanks
Hi AMIGASYSTEM, I'm from italy, I'll check HCL thanks!
I've uploaded scummvm-1.9.0 and residualvm-0.3.1 to aros archives if you want to test them
@deadwood - @Deremon
Hello and welcome! It is always good to see a fellow software developer joining our community.
With regards to the hardware problem you mention, first it make sense to check the link that @AMIGASYSTEM posted to see if your hardware does not need some additional parameters with newer versions of AROS. Additionally at top of that page you have a list of recommended hardware which is quite cheap and possibly you'd need only to swap out motherboard.
With the hardware you have, there are a few options you can try:
1) using the default grub menu item, edit it and add "bootmenu" to kernel parameters list. Does the bootmenu start? If yes, do you see your cdrom and harddrive in it?
2) try adding noapci kernel parameter in grub, often ACPI support for older hardware is problematic
Also please share what motherboard you have and whether your CDROM is IDE or SATA.
Hi Deadwood,
unfortunately I'm a linux/windows system engineer not a software developer, the most "serious" programming language I've used was Turbo Pascal at school (and bash scripting doesn't make me a software developer)
I try to compile things debugging with my limited experience and *a lot* of google searchesI've tested latest build also with a core2quad and nothing, it will not boot even with bootmenu and/or noapic but Icaros desktop just works, so I think I'll double check the iso, I will also try AROS One and TinyAROS aside from the "official" base builds
On AthlonXP there's only IDE
On core2quad I've IDE and SATA, CDROM is SATA
Core2quad has a GA-P35-DS3 motherboard
Tomorrow I'll check AthlonXP one
@miker1264 - Also, if you compile GitHub sources for vanilla AROS that is considered the "core" system. It only has the basic system files.
It's better to use a distro such as AROS One x86 or even Icaros Desktop although it is based on older systems files. Tiny AROS is another one. The distros such as AROS One x86 are full of preloaded and preconfigured software. I like AROS One x86 because "it just works". Especially the sound and datatypes and themes are well done. The def_icons and descriptors are also well done. On supported hardware it just works.
Hi miker1264,
I'll try them all
Thanks for the help and the warm welcome!
Edited by Deremon on 28-03-2024 20:09, 7 months ago
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Posted 7 months agoEdited by Amiwell79 on 30-03-2024 17:59, 7 months ago
DeremonJunior Member
Posted 7 months ago@deadwood -@Deremon
Core2quad has a GA-P35-DS3 motherboard
Tomorrow I'll check AthlonXP one
What you can try is selecting the last option in the boot menu. This will boot into VGA mode where you will see boot messages on the screen while AROS boots. Possibly you will see there any error message that might lead us on where the regression is.
To recap:
Core2quad has a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 motherboard 3GiB of RAM and an Nvidia 9600 GT (HDMI+DVI+VGA using VGA)
AthlonXP 1700+ has an Asus A7V8X-X 2GiB of RAM and an Nvidia 6600 GT (DVI+VGA using VGA)
Photos attached are from the safe mode option
Core2Quad does not seem to display a really "visible" errors (it's ok that "APIC #X of Y going idle" ?)
On AthlonXP there is a software failure (seem a very nasty one)
both starts with icaros 2.3 with native graphic using NV on screenmode and full GL acceleration, next week I'll recive an USB virtual odd so I can test more iso file and the other distros without burning ton of dvds
PS. I saw there is a post regarding compatible hardware, if I can have the base iso booting I can share what works and what not on these mobos
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Posted 7 months agoDeremonJunior Member
Posted 7 months ago@Amiwell79 - you definitely have some hardware incompatibility all distributions are based on the latest deadwood build
Not IcarOS at the moment so I can use them in a way or another
I'll double check the iso tho (when I riceve the virtual USB ODD) to be sure I made no mistakes @AMIGASYSTEM - @Deremon
I don't know if you read my quote after Myst 3 test, I removed the error Play "TOHO_MUSIC2.mp3", which is the music base of the game menu
Question ResidualVM AROS version supports the MP3 ? with ResidualVM the MP3 intro works fine ! !
I'm so sorry AMIGASYSTEM, I missed the question, unfortunately MP3 support is not enabled on that build cause I've missed libmad (found it today on AROS archives), I've rebuilt residualvm with libmad, may you retry with the build attached? If it works I'll rebuild also scummvm 1.9.0 with it
@deadwood - @Deremon
Looking at your photos:
1) GA-P35-DS3 - it dies very early in boot sequence. The only thing that comes to my mind is to add "noacpi" option to grub command line in safe mode and see whethere is the a different debug output
2) A7V8X-X - kernel went further in this case and died around some hardware initialization. What I can suggest is to disable any hardware you can in BIOS and disconned all disks except DVD-rom and see if this will get you futher in safe mode. Other test would be to disable ATA/SATA and boot from USB only.
1) no changes with noapic, it goes on the same line as ATA=nodma debug=memory nomonitors right?
2) Ok unfortunately it's a really early usb motherboard I can only boot having a USB-CDROM (real or virtual) no USB-HDD boot
apart from that is there anything else I can do to debug this issue?
Ah one last thing I have also a athlon64 and a celeron (first edition 32bit) I can try with them if you are interested
@deadwood -@Deremon next week I'll recive an USB virtual odd so I can test more iso file and the other distros without burning ton of dvds
You can also install the ISO to USB pen drive via VirtualBox or WMWare. That's the cheapest option to try new versions.
It will work for sure with GA-P35-DS3, no way with A7V8X-X as I said before
Edited by Deremon on 01-04-2024 14:55, 7 months ago
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