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Request for Advice / Guidance

Last updated on 21 days ago
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BBQ_TroyJunior Member
Posted 25 days ago
Hi All,

After finally admitting defeat on a previous build of AROSOne on some hardware that mostly worked but had some stability issues (I did get lots of help here from some really great people) I have now built a new, hardware native, AROSOne system on an Intel Desktop DH55TC Motherboard that is working wonderfully and is very stable. I’ve included a photo of the setup (if it uploads OK) that I think is some nice eye candy with its blue and white (LED fans) theme to match the AROSOne desktop – would love your thought and opinions on the build.

While I’m so happy with the build, there are three minor things I would love some advice / guidance on. Just some final finishing touches that would be the icing on the cake if they can be done. If not, I’ll still be very happy with what I have.

First – Is it possible to get sound over HDMI? I’m currently using VGA + a speaker connection to get the sound and I would prefer to just use HDMI. But when I change to HDMI, I can’t seem to get sound working. Is there a way to do this?

Second – I’ve read several posts here that suggest if your hardware supports Native Graphics, you should use that. My hardware does, but the screen resolution and screen size are not as good as some of the non-native options that also work. In native mode, in screenmodes under prefs I don’t have any selectable options (just the default), and I can’t seem to manually set anything up either. Am I just missing something here?

Third – this one is probably a real long shot. I’ve done the build in a modern case that has a USB3.0 case cable for the front USB ports. The Motherboard being a bit older of course does not have a USB3.0 header but I did have a PCIEx1 adaptor laying around, so I’ve connected that to the Motherboard and case cable. Is AROSOne capable of recognizing and using this set up (USB over PCIE)? If not, I’ll just have to use the USB ports at the back that are directly on the Motherboard only, but it would be nice to have the front ones available too.

Thanks for any advice and help, Regards Troy.
BBQ_Troy attached the following image:
arosone_build.jpg
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 25 days ago
On the hardware level I don't know if your requests are possible, maybe deadwood or another experienced user could be more precise.

Regarding the native Sheda, strange that in Screenmode prefs there are not all the available resolutions, it never happened to me ! what video card do you have ?
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BBQ_TroyJunior Member
Posted 25 days ago
Hi Amigasystem,

No video card - just the native graphics from the motherboard (DH55TC).

Regards,
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retrofazaMember
Posted 25 days ago

BBQ_Troy wrote:

@BBQ_Troy

No video card - just the native graphics from the motherboard (DH55TC).



Hi, your setup looks great!
I think you have Intel HD graphics built into the CPU, AROS doesn't have drivers for it and you are left with only VESA mode. It would be a good idea to simply add a supported NVidia card on PCI Express to your setup.
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ntromansMember
Posted 24 days ago
Hi Troy,
Re. audio over HDMI, you could use one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B072NCTBVP?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title. There's a cable to commect your 3.5 mm audio out to the adapter and that then gives you audio over HDMI.

PCI USB cards can be recognised by AROS (I've used one), but as always it will be dependent on the exact chipset used; best bet is just try it and see if there's any luck.

Cheers,
Nigel.
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BBQ_TroyJunior Member
Posted 24 days ago
Hi Retrofaza,

Thanks for your response.

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It would be a good idea to simply add a supported NVidia card on PCI Express to your setup.


I might try this just to see what it offers. It just seemed weird that Native mode works but there are no options that I can pick - I though I might be missing something. Via VESA Mode I do get a nice resolution so I can fall back on this if I need to.

Regards, Troy.
Edited by BBQ_Troy on 13-11-2024 16:52, 24 days ago
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BBQ_TroyJunior Member
Posted 24 days ago
Hi Nigel,

Thanks for the info.

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audio over HDMI, you could use one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B072NCTBVP?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title. There's a cable to commect your 3.5 mm audio out to the adapter and that then gives you audio over HDMI.

PCI USB cards can be recognized by AROS (I've used one), but as always it will be dependent on the exact chipset used; best bet is just try it and see if there's any luck.

Cheers,
Nigel.


If there is no way to run sound directly over HDMI I'll just stick to using VGA + an Audio cable. It just would have been nice to go to one cable with no adaptors.

Good to know USB over PCIE is possible - I did try it but no luck. Does AROS pick up the PCIE automatically or do I need to set up some sort of driver or .device file?

Regards, Troy.
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ntromansMember
Posted 24 days ago

BBQ_Troy wrote:

@BBQ_Troy - Hi Nigel,

Thanks for the info.

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audio over HDMI, you could use one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B072NCTBVP?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title. There's a cable to commect your 3.5 mm audio out to the adapter and that then gives you audio over HDMI.

PCI USB cards can be recognized by AROS (I've used one), but as always it will be dependent on the exact chipset used; best bet is just try it and see if there's any luck.

Cheers,
Nigel.


If there is no way to run sound directly over HDMI I'll just stick to using VGA + an Audio cable. It just would have been nice to go to one cable with no adaptors.

Good to know USB over PCIE is possible - I did try it but no luck. Does AROS pick up the PCIE automatically or do I need to set up some sort of driver or .device file?

Regards, Troy.


The PCI device shuld be picked up automatically; sorry to hear you were not so lucky.

Nigel.
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BBQ_TroyJunior Member
Posted 24 days ago
I've done a bit of digging and interestingly I can see the PCI device in AROSOne (attached image) but its not working correctly - I can insert a USB into a port attached via the PCI and nothing (same usb works fine on a usb port on the motherboard though).
BBQ_Troy attached the following image:
pci_info.jpg
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retrofazaMember
Posted 24 days ago
Maybe an easier solution would be such a simple USB3-USB2 adapter. I have something like this for my case and it works well.

https://www.ebay....5761725876
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 24 days ago
Looking at your photo, your card is an USB 3.0 controller. This won't work with AROS at the moment.
Argo, BBQ_Troy, pixie
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BBQ_TroyJunior Member
Posted 24 days ago
Hi Deadwood,

Thanks for clarifying that my card wont work.

Regards, Troy.
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BBQ_TroyJunior Member
Posted 24 days ago

retrofaza wrote:

@retrofaza - Maybe an easier solution would be such a simple USB3-USB2 adapter. I have something like this for my case and it works well.

https://www.ebay....5761725876


Good idea, thanks.
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ncafferkeyNewbie
Posted 21 days ago

BBQ_Troy wrote:



I might try this just to see what it offers. It just seemed weird that Native mode works but there are no options that I can pick - I though I might be missing something. Via VESA Mode I do get a nice resolution so I can fall back on this if I need to.


What mode name is shown in Screenmode prefs when you boot into native graphics mode? Since your graphics chip has no native driver, I suspect it's either VESA or VGA.
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