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AROS4 (Andrea Palmate)

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BohunSenior Member

Posted 33 seconds ago

[quote name=x-vision post=15362]@x-vision - That fork is shameful and bastard[/quote]
You've got to be kidding. This could be the successor to AmigaOS. Open-source. Based on AROS, though not AROS. If the license is violated, your opinion will be justified. Until then, it's just your opinion.
Let's put this criticism aside. Let's look at the situation in the Linux world. Is there a Debian vs. Fedora or Mint vs. Ubuntu war going on there? Why do we need posts like yours?
We've achieved incredible success as AROS supporters. The hopes of AmigaOS users are focused on us. Let's argue with them, and there will be no further cooperation. Let's reach an agreement, and maybe we can create something together. To their benefit and ours.

x-visionJunior Member

Posted 1 hour ago

#19

That fork is shameful and bastard

OlafSchSenior Member

Posted 20 hours ago

#18

He has changed the name in meantime

terminillsMember

Posted 1 day ago

#17

OlafSch wrote:

@OlafSch -
terminills wrote:
@terminills -
arosbeginner wrote:
@arosbeginner - andrea afxgroup, your house is aros development team!
Andrea is a goof programmer with many years of knowledge of the Amiga world.

In my opinion, his ideas need to be integrated, we need to find a way to understand how to collaborate because the Amiga origin is common and is part of our community.

He may be a good programmer however he was bastardizing the AROS name(he changed it to ARia). Using the name while simply adding a hyphen and a 4 yet never actually using the hyphen when talking about his incompatible project. He's said it himself it is not AROS it uses the AROS kernel but the userspace is entirely different even at the API level.

the goals of his project are not the same. He wants a 100% identical replic of OS4 and uses aros source codes at least as base. But the result is not a simple aros variant with some GUI changes. But perhaps it is at least possible to use source codes from there to add features at aros. We will see what future brings.

That's not the point ... The point is AROS has spent decades using the name and creating goodwill, and now he came and started using the name while claiming it's not AROS. I've been very consistent on this standpoint it doesn't matter who is doing it, it's innappropriate.

Edited by terminills on 26-10-2026 11:44, 23 hours ago

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aha, OlafSch, x-vision

miker1264Software Dev

Posted 1 day ago

#16

He, Andrea Palmate, is the same person who is associated with afxgroup that is responsible for the development of Waffle Copy Pro for OS4 based on DrawBridge by Rob Smith. He also did the work on the alternate OS4'kernel based on AROS.

There's an article posted on amiga-news.de about AROS4.

AMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer

Posted 1 day ago

#15

I disagree; using the AROS source code and AROS kernels and then disavowing it doesn't read well, in my opinion.
Furthermore,
the fact that “AROS” appears in the name is met with disapproval; in fact, on Amigans, the name “AROS” alone was enough for it to be immediately rejected by Amiga users who are quick to judge see the comments at the link:

https://www.amiga...c_id=10223

AROS One All Thread
AROS One Home Site
AROS One Facebook

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sonountaleban

arosbeginnerMember

Posted 1 day ago

#14

i agree with you at 100%.

But he is a contributor of amiga world. Maybe he can understand to collaborate

Edited by arosbeginner on 26-10-2026 09:49, 1 day ago

OlafSchSenior Member

Posted 1 day ago

#13

terminills wrote:

@terminills -
arosbeginner wrote:
@arosbeginner - andrea afxgroup, your house is aros development team!
Andrea is a goof programmer with many years of knowledge of the Amiga world.

In my opinion, his ideas need to be integrated, we need to find a way to understand how to collaborate because the Amiga origin is common and is part of our community.

He may be a good programmer however he was bastardizing the AROS name(he changed it to ARia). Using the name while simply adding a hyphen and a 4 yet never actually using the hyphen when talking about his incompatible project. He's said it himself it is not AROS it uses the AROS kernel but the userspace is entirely different even at the API level.

the goals of his project are not the same. He wants a 100% identical replic of OS4 and uses aros source codes at least as base. But the result is not a simple aros variant with some GUI changes. But perhaps it is at least possible to use source codes from there to add features at aros. We will see what future brings.

terminillsMember

Posted 1 day ago

#12

arosbeginner wrote:

@arosbeginner - andrea afxgroup, your house is aros development team!
Andrea is a goof programmer with many years of knowledge of the Amiga world.

In my opinion, his ideas need to be integrated, we need to find a way to understand how to collaborate because the Amiga origin is common and is part of our community.

He may be a good programmer however he was bastardizing the AROS name(he changed it to ARia). Using the name while simply adding a hyphen and a 4 yet never actually using the hyphen when talking about his incompatible project. He's said it himself it is not AROS it uses the AROS kernel but the userspace is entirely different even at the API level.

arosbeginnerMember

Posted 1 day ago

#11

andrea afxgroup, your house is aros development team!
Andrea is a good programmer with many years of knowledge of the Amiga world.

In my opinion, his ideas need to be integrated, we need to find a way to understand how to collaborate because the Amiga origin is common and is part of our community.

Edited by arosbeginner on 26-10-2026 09:00, 1 day ago

terminillsMember

Posted 1 day ago

#10

ASiegel wrote:

@ASiegel - The brand design looks cool but the name is obviously a disaster.

For the record, as Pascal may be able to confirm, I made the same argument with regard to "ARES" a number of years ago.

I find it difficult to imagine how someone can justify taking over the name of an established community project and then reusing it for a different project after changing one letter or adding a number. Clearly, this is going to cause confusion (as is evident by the numerous "actually, this is not really AROS" confirmations already).

2026 AROS in a legal battle of over "the name" was not on my bingo card but it's an absolute possibility.

ASiegelJunior Member

Posted 1 day ago

The brand design looks cool but the name is obviously a disaster.

For the record, as Pascal may be able to confirm, I made the same argument with regard to "ARES" a number of years ago.

I find it difficult to imagine how someone can justify taking over the name of an established community project and then reusing it for a different project after changing one letter or adding a number. Clearly, this is going to cause confusion (as is evident by the numerous "actually, this is not really AROS" confirmations already).

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ArgoMember

Posted 1 day ago

miker1264 wrote:

@miker1264 -
coffeecat wrote:
@coffeecat - Yai! - yet another initiative. I will launch Coffeeros soon, too.

https://xkcd.com/...

(I won't touch PPC, but I will have a look overall)

CoffeeAros or Caffeine OS ? ;-)

So, does that mean AROS4 is better than AROS?

I'm just joking, of course! I couldn't help myself. I had to say that. :-)

OS4 users see all the activity on AROS forums, OS4 wants to be successful like AROS.

I think it was the port of AROS to Raspberry Pi that caught their eye!

Given the cost of a Pi 400 or 500 kit compared to buying and kitting a Mirari or Tycho boards, I'd say that very well could be likely
Especially after the AmigaLabs guys showed a new AmigaOS 4 compatible drop-in kernel for the Raspberry Pi 2

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Argo

terminillsMember

Posted 2 days ago

miker1264 wrote:

@miker1264 -
coffeecat wrote:
@coffeecat - Yai! - yet another initiative. I will launch Coffeeros soon, too.

https://xkcd.com/...

(I won't touch PPC, but I will have a look overall)

CoffeeAros or Caffeine OS ? ;-)

So, does that mean AROS4 is better than AROS?

I'm just joking, of course! I couldn't help myself. I had to say that. :-)

OS4 users see all the activity on AROS forums, OS4 wants to be successful like AROS.

I think it was the port of AROS to Raspberry Pi that caught their eye!

Obviously it’s ABIv4 so it’s better than all previous AROS’s

miker1264Software Dev

Posted 2 days ago

coffeecat wrote:

@coffeecat - Yai! - yet another initiative. I will launch Coffeeros soon, too.

https://xkcd.com/...

(I won't touch PPC, but I will have a look overall)

CoffeeAros or Caffeine OS ? ;-)

So, does that mean AROS4 is better than AROS?

I'm just joking, of course! I couldn't help myself. I had to say that. :-)

OS4 users see all the activity on AROS forums, OS4 wants to be successful like AROS.

I think it was the port of AROS to Raspberry Pi that caught their eye!

Edited by miker1264 on 25-10-2026 17:13, 2 days ago

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OlafSchSenior Member

Posted 2 days ago

in any case they add OS4 stuff who might be interesting for AROS here too like modern Reaction. And I hope that Zune also will be updated.

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Argo

OlafSchSenior Member

Posted 2 days ago

where did you read it? In discussion Zune is mentioned, the kernal also is based on Aros. But it is not 1:1 branch certainly.

coffeecatMember

Posted 2 days ago

Yai! - yet another initiative. I will launch Coffeeros soon, too.

https://xkcd.com/...

(I won't touch PPC, but I will have a look overall)

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miker1264

BohunSenior Member

Posted 2 days ago

https://ko-fi.com...O7T529FZHO

now I read that it is not AROS but interesting

BohunSenior Member

Posted 2 days ago

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AROS4 is a free, open source operating system that reimplements the AmigaOS 4 API from scratch: the same libraries, devices and look that Amiga software expects, written new under an open licence, with no code from the original.

It boots on PowerPC machines (Sam460, AmigaOne X5000) and on ARM (Raspberry Pi 2, more boards coming), ships a modern GUI theme with light and dark modes, Unicode and colour-emoji fonts, a tabbed Shell, a Workbench with a single Preferences app, and runs classic software such as Directory Opus 4 out of the box.

In this video: the boot, the desktop, the new look, and where the project is heading.

Why it matters
• Amiga users: your software and your workflow, on hardware you can still buy, with a system you can read, build and fix yourself.
• Linux, macOS and Windows users: a small, fast, understandable OS with a 40-year lineage, a message-passing kernel and a desktop that fits in a few megabytes. If you like operating systems, this one is fun to read.
• Developers: C, a clean SDK, open build tree, everything on GitHub. Pull requests welcome.

AROS4 is not affiliated with Hyperion Entertainment, A-EON or Amiga Corporation. Amiga and AmigaOS are trademarks of their respective owners.

Edited by Bohun on 25-10-2026 14:08, 2 days ago

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