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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 21 days ago@AMIGASYSTEM - @deadwood
Found a Guru on LunaPaint with build 2025090, with build 20250418 no Guru.
The Guru appears if you try to save an image. I am attaching two videos showing the Guru with the new build 2025090, and in the second video, the correct operation with 20250418.
I ran LunaPaint with the ‘Wanderer’ screen because I get graphic artefacts with the proprietary screen. In any case (this does not happen with AROS 32Bit.), the Guru with build 2025090 also appears with the proprietary screen.
In addition, there are strange font characters on the LunaPaint window bar, This also happened with previous builds.
EDIT:
Same problem, GURU when saving files even with the apps: ZuneBrot, ZunePaint, and ZuneView.
I've just tried this and yes, there is a crash when saving from both Lunapaint and Zunepaint but it only occurs when saving jpeg; png and ilbm (for Zunepaint) do save OK.
Cheers,
Nigel.
Edit: Please see message below. Test I've reported above was for native (on HP Elitebook).
Edited by ntromans on 07-09-2025 05:50, 21 days ago

On VMware, ZunePaint gets a Guru even with PNG, ILBM is saved without errors.
ntromansSenior Member
Posted 17 days agoI've been trying to get my HP Elitebook on the internet again, this time trying tethering. Unfortunately, whilst tethering works on 32 bit it refuses to connect on 64 bit ('no route to host' on ping). One difference seems to be in the binding of mdis class to the Android device; this happens autmatically on 32 bit when the tethering is enabled, but for 64 bit it only happens if the port is powercycled.
Cheers,
Nigel.
Cheers,
Nigel.

With my old ‘ACER ASpire 5920’ laptop running AROS One 64Bit, USB tethering works well. I can browse with OWB, AmiTube and use shared Windows (Network Drive) on the network.
For USB tethering to work properly, it must be enabled before starting Wanderer!
I have only one problem: the Google search engine does not work, error 28, but perhaps this problem is due to the fact that I only have 2 GB of RAM on the ‘ACER ASpire 5920 laptop’.
The Google search engine works fine with AmiFox, so it is not a connection problem but a problem with OWB 64 with 4 MB of RAM?
For USB tethering to work properly, it must be enabled before starting Wanderer!
I have only one problem: the Google search engine does not work, error 28, but perhaps this problem is due to the fact that I only have 2 GB of RAM on the ‘ACER ASpire 5920 laptop’.
The Google search engine works fine with AmiFox, so it is not a connection problem but a problem with OWB 64 with 4 MB of RAM?
ncafferkeyJunior Member
Posted 17 days ago
Hi Neil, good to hear from you. Yes, I agree realtek8180 can be fussy; it does work on this machine under 32 bit though. However, it does require me to (a) set all ip addresses manually (tried for 64 bit as well as DHCP) and (b) run sequentially startnet, stopnet, startnet and then wirelessmanager. Oddly doing the start/stop/start makes connection to our router via realtek8180 much more reliable. I tried that with 64 bit but got a crash on running stopnet; when I get back home I'll try again and post up the crash log.
Cheers,
Nigel.
Edit: Stopnet error log attached.
I'm attaching an updated AROSTCP binary that fixes the stopnet crash for me. The fix is also committed to Deadwood's repo.
ncafferkeyJunior Member
Posted 17 days ago@ntromans -@ncafferkey
Unfortunately, it's a known issue that atheros5000 doesn't work on 64-bit. As you've seen, it gives the illusion that it might work, but something unknown is wrong that causes it to drop a lot of packets. I spent a bit of time trying to fix it, but I had to set it aside for the moment as it's not the same type of problem that the other drivers had.
realtek8180 has always had strange behaviour, even on 32-bit. It works in some environments and not in others. On my last test it seemed to work quite well on 64-bit, but that could definitely be specific to my network. Does it work for you on 32-bit?
Hi Neil, good to hear from you. Yes, I agree realtek8180 can be fussy; it does work on this machine under 32 bit though. However, it does require me to (a) set all ip addresses manually (tried for 64 bit as well as DHCP) and (b) run sequentially startnet, stopnet, startnet and then wirelessmanager. Oddly doing the start/stop/start makes connection to our router via realtek8180 much more reliable. I tried that with 64 bit but got a crash on running stopnet; when I get back home I'll try again and post up the crash log.
Cheers,
Nigel.
Edit: Stopnet error log attached.
Hi Neil, good to hear from you. Yes, I agree realtek8180 can be fussy; it does work on this machine under 32 bit though. However, it does require me to (a) set all ip addresses manually (tried for 64 bit as well as DHCP) and (b) run sequentially startnet, stopnet, startnet and then wirelessmanager. Oddly doing the start/stop/start makes connection to our router via realtek8180 much more reliable. I tried that with 64 bit but got a crash on running stopnet; when I get back home I'll try again and post up the crash log.
Cheers,
Nigel.
Edit: Stopnet error log attached.
I'm attaching an updated AROSTCP binary that fixes the stopnet crash for me. The fix is also committed to Deadwood's repo.
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 16 days agoI'm very happy to report stopnet now works and I can get onto wifi through realtek8180.device
As menioned, using the sequence startnet - stopnet - startnet - wirelessmanager seems to be the trick for me. Really looking forwards to getting back to testing 64 bit OWB on a suitably modern CPU (i5).
Many thanks
Nigel.
Many thanks
Nigel.
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 14 days agoHit a crash with the realtek8180.device and with wirelssmanager when trying to cancel it via ctrl-C - please see attached if these will be of any help.
Cheers,
Nigel..
Cheers,
Nigel..
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 13 days agoFor people reporting "file is not executable" when starting Odyssey, please try this kernel:
https://axrt.org/.../kernel.gz
Also please note that there is a suspicion of regression in network in nightlies which causes Odyssey to fail to load heavier sites like YT. EDIT: It's most likely a false alarm and related to issues with a specific ISP. Same hardware using another ISP works correctly.
https://axrt.org/.../kernel.gz
Also please note that there is a suspicion of regression in network in nightlies which causes Odyssey to fail to load heavier sites like YT. EDIT: It's most likely a false alarm and related to issues with a specific ISP. Same hardware using another ISP works correctly.
Edited by deadwood on 14-09-2025 16:06, 13 days ago
ncafferkeyJunior Member
Posted 13 days ago@ntromans - Hit a crash with the realtek8180.device and with wirelssmanager when trying to cancel it via ctrl-C - please see attached if these will be of any help.
Cheers,
Nigel..
To clarify, did you just Ctrl-C WirelessManager from the shell and you got these two gurus? Had it established a connection at the time? Was AROSTCP also running? Is it easily reproduceable or intermittent? E.g. does it happen if you just run WirelessManager from the shell without other networking components running? Sorry for all the questions!
ntromansSenior Member
Posted 13 days ago@deadwood - For people reporting "file is not executable" when starting Odyssey, please try this kernel:
https://axrt.org/.../kernel.gz
Also please note that there is a suspicion of regression in network in nightlies which causes Odyssey to fail to load heavier sites like YT. EDIT: It's most likely a false alarm and related to issues with a specific ISP. Same hardware using another ISP works correctly.
I'll give the new kernal a try asap
So the missing Google etc. might be an issue with the ISP? We are with Virgin Media. Our other systems can load Google etc. fine, including 32 bit AROS using either the atheros or realtek8180 drivers.
Cheers,
Nigel.
ntromansSenior Member
Posted 13 days ago@ncafferkey -@ntromans - Hit a crash with the realtek8180.device and with wirelssmanager when trying to cancel it via ctrl-C - please see attached if these will be of any help.
Cheers,
Nigel..
To clarify, did you just Ctrl-C WirelessManager from the shell and you got these two gurus? Had it established a connection at the time? Was AROSTCP also running? Is it easily reproduceable or intermittent? E.g. does it happen if you just run WirelessManager from the shell without other networking components running? Sorry for all the questions!
The realtek8180 driver crash was just random during use and has only happened once. The WirelessManager crash has happened a few times when hitting ctrl-c; I'll go back and check for the level of reproduceability and if it occurs if wirelessmanager is run by itself.
Cheers,
Nigel.
deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 13 days ago@ntromans
So the missing Google etc. might be an issue with the ISP? We are with Virgin Media. Our other systems can load Google etc. fine, including 32 bit AROS using either the atheros or realtek8180 drivers.
No. If you have other 64-bit system that loads google fine then I don't think it's ISP issue. In above case all systems stopped loading google.

@ntromans
It is not a problem with your provider or network, but rather something to do with the operating system (Only PC AROS Native, on WMWare work perfectly ).
On AROS 64Bit, Google end search engine work perfectly with AmiFox!
Try AmiFox and you will see that everything works normally with Google and other sites.
It is not a problem with your provider or network, but rather something to do with the operating system (Only PC AROS Native, on WMWare work perfectly ).
On AROS 64Bit, Google end search engine work perfectly with AmiFox!
Try AmiFox and you will see that everything works normally with Google and other sites.
ntromansSenior Member
Posted 12 days ago@deadwood - For people reporting "file is not executable" when starting Odyssey, please try this kernel:
https://axrt.org/.../kernel.gz
Also please note that there is a suspicion of regression in network in nightlies which causes Odyssey to fail to load heavier sites like YT. EDIT: It's most likely a false alarm and related to issues with a specific ISP. Same hardware using another ISP works correctly.
I've tried the new kernel with 'intersting' results.
Firstly I booted on thw working i5 machine. Kernel booted, OWB started, albeit it felt a bit slowly.
Then I bootted the AM machine. It booted and OWB started up. No improvement for google (still not loading, this through realtek8189.device0. I tried to post to here from that machine and that's then things got strange. In this reply box, if I hit '1' the box closed and I bounced back to the forum page. This happend a coupdl of times, On the third attemp the reply box refused to open at all. I went back to the home page and found I couldn't oprn a forum at all. I tried deleting cookies, restarting OWB and rebooting, no improvement.
I then went back to the i5 machine to see if it did the same and OWB crashed on opening - please see attached.
Cheers,
Nigel.
ntromansSenior Member
Posted 12 days ago@deadwood - For people reporting "file is not executable" when starting Odyssey, please try this kernel:
https://axrt.org/.../kernel.gz
Also please note that there is a suspicion of regression in network in nightlies which causes Odyssey to fail to load heavier sites like YT. EDIT: It's most likely a false alarm and related to issues with a specific ISP. Same hardware using another ISP works correctly.
@deadwood - For people reporting "file is not executable" when starting Odyssey, please try this kernel:
https://axrt.org/.../kernel.gz
Also please note that there is a suspicion of regression in network in nightlies which causes Odyssey to fail to load heavier sites like YT. EDIT: It's most likely a false alarm and related to issues with a specific ISP. Same hardware using another ISP works correctly.
I've tried the new kernel with 'intersting' results.
Firstly I booted on thw working i5 machine. Kernel booted, OWB started, albeit it felt a bit slowly.
Then I bootted the AMD machine. It booted and OWB started up. No improvement for google (still not loading, this through realtek8189.device0. I tried to post to here from that machine and that's then things got strange. In this reply box, if I hit '1' the box closed and I bounced back to the forum page. This happend a coupdl of times, On the third attemp the reply box refused to open at all. I went back to the home page and found I couldn't oprn a forum at all. I tried deleting cookies, restarting OWB and rebooting, no improvement.
I then went back to the i5 machine to see if it did the same and OWB crashed on opening - please see attached.
Cheers,
Nigel.
P.S. reinstalled kernel from most recent nightly linked to here, OWB is now behaving as it previously was on the i5 machine.
Edited by ntromans on 16-09-2025 07:36, 12 days ago
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 12 days ago@ntromans -@ncafferkey -@ntromans - Hit a crash with the realtek8180.device and with wirelssmanager when trying to cancel it via ctrl-C - please see attached if these will be of any help.
Cheers,
Nigel..
To clarify, did you just Ctrl-C WirelessManager from the shell and you got these two gurus? Had it established a connection at the time? Was AROSTCP also running? Is it easily reproduceable or intermittent? E.g. does it happen if you just run WirelessManager from the shell without other networking components running? Sorry for all the questions!
The realtek8180 driver crash was just random during use and has only happened once. The WirelessManager crash has happened a few times when hitting ctrl-c; I'll go back and check for the level of reproduceability and if it occurs if wirelessmanager is run by itself.
Cheers,
Nigel.
When run by itself, WirelessManager does not crash after ctrl-c. If the netwrk is runing (via startnet/stopnet/startnet/wirelessmanager) then it does consistently crash with ctrl-c.
The realtek8180.device error occurs when you remove the wifi dongle whilst the network is running, although I suppose you coud say that's something you shouldn't do...
Cheers,
Nigel.
P.S. tests were done using the kernel from the nightly.
Edited by ntromans on 15-09-2025 17:38, 12 days ago
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 12 days ago@ntromans
On AM: I though you wanted to test the wired internet on that machine? Can you try how Odyssey behaves on this machine with wired internet and new kernel?
On i5: Did it happen each time you tried to start Odyssey with new kernel or did it happen only once and then you restored kernel from 26th nightly?
On AM: I though you wanted to test the wired internet on that machine? Can you try how Odyssey behaves on this machine with wired internet and new kernel?
On i5: Did it happen each time you tried to start Odyssey with new kernel or did it happen only once and then you restored kernel from 26th nightly?
ntromansSenior Member
Posted 12 days ago@deadwood - @ntromans
On AM: I though you wanted to test the wired internet on that machine? Can you try how Odyssey behaves on this machine with wired internet and new kernel?
On i5: Did it happen each time you tried to start Odyssey with new kernel or did it happen only once and then you restored kernel from 26th nightly?
All of the test outcomes in the next two paragraphs were using the kernel released 14.9.25.
The AMD (sorry, my typo in previous message) machine did start OWB and I could view web-sites (not google though), this through wired ethernet (realtek8189.device driver). However, as mentioned above when I tried to post here using that machine it began to behave oddly - '1' key dropping me out of the reply box and back to the forum and then refusing to open links. That is when I moved back to the i5 machine (wifi through realtek8180.device) to see if it gave the same strange behaviour.
Th i5 machine started OWB on the first test (before trying on the AMD machine); I didn't do much with this test, it was just to see if it would boot with the new kernel and open OWB. On moving back to the i5 machine after the AMD tests, on starting OWB I had the crash reported above.
Then swapping back to the kernel from 26th, the i5 behaved as it has done previosuly (OWB launched, AROSworld could be navigated, posted to, etc). I did this to see if there had somehow been corruption to the OWB code causing the crash but it would seem not.
Cheers,
Nigel.
deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 12 days agoThanks for adding more details.
For AMD: I don't see realtek8189.device on the ISO :/ Are you sure this is the wired ethernet you are using?
For i5: please start Odyssey 10x using 26th kernel. Then swap kernel to 149.25 and again start Odyssey 10x. Is there any pattern to the crashes?
For AMD: I don't see realtek8189.device on the ISO :/ Are you sure this is the wired ethernet you are using?
For i5: please start Odyssey 10x using 26th kernel. Then swap kernel to 149.25 and again start Odyssey 10x. Is there any pattern to the crashes?
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