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AROS 64-bit Nightly build Testing

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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 5 months ago

AMIGASYSTEM wrote:

@AMIGASYSTEM - ntromans, I tested two native PCs, VMware and QEmu, and did not encounter your problem. It may be your hardware or some corruption global.prefs file. Have you tried replacing global.prefs installed on the hard disk with the one from the ISO or another ISO?


I deleted all of envarc:, copied across the one from the iso and rebooted; then when saving from Waderer prefs I had the copy problem. As mentioned I might go back and investigate further at a later point but for the moment I'm setting up to test the ABI0 emulation.

Cheers,
Nigel.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 5 months ago

deadwood wrote:

@deadwood - Regarding rounded frames: it's for frames around UI elements, like a Group frame can be rounded.


This new option is found in Zune Prefs. You need to be careful where you use it. For example, if you use rounding in the ‘Sliders (Cursors)’ section, some buttons will disappear on some apps. You can see this on Mplayer, where the volume button will disappear if the Windows Theme has a light colour.

If, on the other hand, the theme colour is dark, the button will be displayed without a border, as shown in the screenshot. In practice, the rounded function does not allow you to add a border to the button, as shown in the comparison screenshot.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 5 months ago
With this Nightly build Testing on VMware, if you try to disable “Start networking during system boot” and save, the operating system will crash. With the reference build 20250418-1 + U2, this problem does not exist!

EDIT:

I reinstalled it and now the system lock seems to be gone.
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 5 months ago
@ntromans

A long time ago you reported three hardware-related bugs:

https://github.co.../issues/23
https://github.co.../issues/24
https://github.co.../issues/21

It seems to me that at least the network-related ones have been fixed in the meantime. Can you comment on whethere I can close these 3 bugs?
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 4 months ago

deadwood wrote:

@deadwood - @ntromans

A long time ago you reported three hardware-related bugs:

https://github.co.../issues/23
https://github.co.../issues/24
https://github.co.../issues/21

It seems to me that at least the network-related ones have been fixed in the meantime. Can you comment on whethere I can close these 3 bugs?


Neil just pointed out to me that I'd completely missed this... All of these are resolved in current 64 bit release and the hardware is working well.

Cheers,
Nigel.
Edited by ntromans on 06-01-2026 14:18, 4 months ago
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 4 months ago
Great, issues closed.
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 4 months ago
This error just popped up for me. At the time I'd just closed AROSpdf which was struggling to render a document and I'd just started pdftops (vua emuv0) to try comverting it to a PS file to see if that would help. OWB was also running.

Cheers,
Nigel.
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 4 months ago
This looks like a memory damage. If it is reproducible, it might be possible to trace it down.
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 4 months ago
It is reproduceable:

Download this pdf - https://www.daciadusterexplorers.co.uk/media/duster2024handbook.pdf to ram: (it's quite big, 20MB )

Open with AROSpdf, click through a few pages then close the program - for me that's when the crash happens.

Cheers,
Nigel.
Edited by ntromans on 07-01-2026 16:38, 4 months ago
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
ntromans, I have run your PDF file dozens of times on Aros One, scrolled through many pages, and no Guru has appeared. !

Are you using the correct version that fixed the strange characters problem? You can find it attached to this post:

https://mail.aros...ost=latest

Before running ArosPDF, did you run any other applications?

Is there any command in user-startup that is executed at system startup?
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
It works very well at the moment. I have done some tests, and the search with replacement works. I have tested it on many files and no Guru has appeared. Thank you.
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 4 months ago

AMIGASYSTEM wrote:

@AMIGASYSTEM - ntromans, I have run your PDF file dozens of times on Aros One, scrolled through many pages, and no Guru has appeared. !

Are you using the correct version that fixed the strange characters problem? You can find it attached to this post:

https://mail.aros...ost=latest

Before running ArosPDF, did you run any other applications?

Is there any command in user-startup that is executed at system startup?


I tried the new version of AROSpdf - no change, I'm still getting the crash on exit.

It's being run directly after a reboot, nothing else running and I have nothing extra started during book apart from the susual commodities BoingIconBar, ClickToFront, DepthMenu, FKey. Opaque, Switch and ZapperNG).

Cheers,
Nigel.

Edit: Just tried booting without the commodities; same error is occrring.
Edited by ntromans on 08-01-2026 17:07, 4 months ago
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 4 months ago
There is still a problem with Zune prefs - at least on my i5 native.

Context: I've been running a from-scratch install of the most recently released 64 bit nightly (not the USB testing one, the normal nightly). The prefs were as set in that nightly until today when I finally decided to customise it.

I changed Wanderer prefs - window backdrop, number of lines for icon name, icon ordering; no issues.

Then I set Zune prefs to save window positions on exit; this was the only change made. After this the system started to lock-up or hard-reset the machine on copying a file using Wanderer or trying to run a program from Wanderer. The menu and shell still worked, and via that I was able to get the machine running stabily again by deleting all Zune prefs (prorgam prefs and global prefs).

I'll try rebuilding setting the prefs again and see what happens.

Cheers,
Nigel.

Edit: Just tried re-setting 'save window position on exit' in Zune prefs => error returns. Deleting all entires in ennvarc:zune => system works again. Please note the error only appears after the system has been rebooted following editing Zune prefs.

Edit 2: The system continued to be unstable. Trying to copy a file from a USB drive crashed the machine, and even using the scrollbar in the USB's window caused a crash. Deleting wanderer.prefs seems to have fixed the problem, but it seems there's still an issue with editing these prefs.
Edited by ntromans on 08-01-2026 17:44, 4 months ago
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago

ntromans wrote:

@ntromans -

It's being run directly after a reboot, nothing else running and I have nothing extra started during book apart from the susual commodities BoingIconBar, ClickToFront, DepthMenu, FKey. Opaque, Switch and ZapperNG).

Cheers,
Nigel.

Edit: Just tried booting without the commodities; same error is occrring.


I also used Commodities BoingIconBar, ClickToFront, DepthMenu, FKey. Opaque, Switch and ZapperNG, and I didn't get any Guru.

Before exiting ArosPDF, monitor with Snoopy+Sashimi, maybe you'll find out what loaded before the Guru.

‘Opaque’ does not work well; there is still the problem of graphic artefacts when enlarging or shrinking windows on Wanderer.
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 4 months ago
OK, I've pinned down the Wanderer prefs bug (system locks up on moving window scrollbar), but it is weirdly specific. It appears when you set windows to have multiline labels but only, I'm finding, with a USB stick window and then not at the top level, it's within a drawer's window. The USB stick is FAT formatted.

Cheers,
Nigel.
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 4 months ago

AMIGASYSTEM wrote:

@AMIGASYSTEM - ntromans, I have run your PDF file dozens of times on Aros One, scrolled through many pages, and no Guru has appeared. !

Are you using the correct version that fixed the strange characters problem? You can find it attached to this post:

https://mail.aros...ost=latest

Before running ArosPDF, did you run any other applications?

Is there any command in user-startup that is executed at system startup?


The new version of AROSpdf gives an error on closing with some PDFs. This error does not occur with the previous version. Please see attached for the error and a PDF which causes it.

Cheers,
Nigel.
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AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago

ntromans wrote:

@ntromans -

The new version of AROSpdf gives an error on closing with some PDFs. This error does not occur with the previous version. Please see attached for the error and a PDF which causes it.

Cheers,
Nigel.


I tested your PDF document and even with this I did not find any Guru, I have attached a short demonstration video!

Which Buitd are you using? Describe the nomenclature !
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 4 months ago
@ntromans

Withint that drawer on USB FAT disk - do you have any files? If yes, delete them. If the problem goes away starts introducing the files back and see which one causes this issue.
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 4 months ago

AMIGASYSTEM wrote:

@AMIGASYSTEM -

ntromans wrote:

@ntromans -

The new version of AROSpdf gives an error on closing with some PDFs. This error does not occur with the previous version. Please see attached for the error and a PDF which causes it.

Cheers,
Nigel.


I tested your PDF document and even with this I did not find any Guru, I have attached a short demonstration video!

Which Buitd are you using? Describe the nomenclature !


The crash is pretty consistent for me - I tried sveral times with same result.

Given all the issues, I think I'll wait for the new 64 bit release (which I guess from Deadwood's post will be in the not too distant), wipe the sys: partition, and do a fully fresh install to see which problems persist.

Cheers,
Nigel.
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ntromansSenior Member
Posted 4 months ago

deadwood wrote:

@deadwood - @ntromans

Withint that drawer on USB FAT disk - do you have any files? If yes, delete them. If the problem goes away starts introducing the files back and see which one causes this issue.


True, it could be a corrupted file: it's the USB I use to transfer files at work and the machines there have corrupted it on more than one occasion.

Cheers,
Nigel.
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