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deadwoodAROS Dev

Posted 2 months ago

@AMIGASYSTEM - @cdimauro
You should try creating AI software to see for yourself it seems easy, but it isn’t.

@AMIGASYSTEM

Are you using local coding agents (Claude Code, Codex, OpenCode) from Windows or Linux or are you working with free "chat based" tools like ChatGPT or Gemini?

terminillsMember

Posted 2 months ago

#22

cdimauro wrote:

@cdimauro -
terminills wrote:
@terminills -
cdimauro wrote:
@cdimauro - First Zune need to be completed and be 100% MUI-compatible.

Absolutely false. Ambient could be ported by fixing the missing gaps it needs. Not making Zune 100% MUI- Compatible.

it's about 6-8 functions tbh.
terminills wrote:
@terminills -
cdimauro wrote:
@cdimauro - First Zune need to be completed and be 100% MUI-compatible.

Absolutely false. Ambient could be ported by fixing the missing gaps it needs. Not making Zune 100% MUI- Compatible.

it's about 6-8 functions tbh.
terminills wrote:
@terminills -
cdimauro wrote:
@cdimauro - First Zune need to be completed and be 100% MUI-compatible.

Absolutely false. Ambient could be ported by fixing the missing gaps it needs. Not making Zune 100% MUI- Compatible.

it's about 6-8 functions tbh.

Have you tried it (porting it)?

I've had it running ... as I stated here I got bored with it. however it doesn't take a rocket surgeon ;D to realize Ambient does not use 100% of the functions of MUI

cdimauroMember

Posted 2 months ago

#23

AMIGASYSTEM wrote:

@AMIGASYSTEM - @cdimauro
The video card has nothing to do with the AI's short-term memory.

This means that either you're using a commercial LLM (which has a long context. So you don't perceive any problematic with your projects) or you don't know of what you're talking about (since using local LLMs restricts a lot their context, due to the much limited available VRAM).

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Even at the height of the discussion, if you make a mistake when asking for something, it misinterprets you and deletes everything; then, if you continue, it no longer remembers anything it was doing—basically, you have to remind it of everything yourself, but it’s like starting from scratch.

Those issues might happen, but it's not set in the stone that they'll always happen.

Again, it depends on many variables.

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You should try creating AI software to see for yourself it seems easy, but it isn’t.

I've Copilot at work where I can use any model that I like, and... I use it (only for projects for the company). It's a piece of charm, especially when I used Claude (the best for coding. Seriously).

At home I've a 1050Ti with only 4GB VRAM (in reality I've the gaming PC with a 3060Ti, but it's almost always used by sons), so I'm very limited (I'm looking forward to get a card with at least 16GB. But they are very expensive in this period), and I only do small things.

Edited by cdimauro on 26-08-2026 16:13, 2 months ago

cdimauroMember

Posted 2 months ago

#24

terminills wrote:

@terminills -
cdimauro wrote:
@cdimauro - First Zune need to be completed and be 100% MUI-compatible.

Absolutely false. Ambient could be ported by fixing the missing gaps it needs. Not making Zune 100% MUI- Compatible.

it's about 6-8 functions tbh.

Have you tried it (porting it)?[/quote]

I've had it running ... as I stated here I got bored with it.[/quote]
Then why don't release it?

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however it doesn't take a rocket surgeon ;D to realize Ambient does not use 100% of the functions of MUI

Ambient is very complex and complete, so it might have used (it and its tools).

Anyway, good that someone has already checked it. Now... release it, even if not yet complete, and you'll make happy the MorphOS aficionados. ;-)

serk118ukSoftware Dev

Posted 2 months ago

#25

Why waste time porting Ambient to AROS ,Instead port mui5 or improve Wanderer, I like Wanderer as base and use Dopus5, btw what advantages Ambient has over wanderer?

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OlafSchSenior Member

Posted 2 months ago

#26

serk118uk wrote:

@serk118uk - Why waste time porting Ambient to AROS ,Instead port mui5 or improve Wanderer, I like Wanderer as base and use Dopus5, btw what advantages Ambient has over wanderer?

I have learned recently it is more configurable including context menu like on magellan

so it is somewhere between wanderer/workbench and magellan

arosbeginnerMember

Posted 2 months ago

#27

Hi all,

Ambient Features:
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- MUI based
- fully asynchronous, multi-threaded design
- does not use icon.library
- built-in old style icons support, automatic remapping
- built-in newicon support
- built-in "OS" 3.5 Glowicon support
- new true-color versatile icon format (Ambient PNGicon)
- file notification
- direct true-color rendering (no pen allocations)
- support for deficons (devices)
- 64-bit arithmetic to handle big storage devices
- localized
- fast file I/O functions
- ARexx port (optional)
- built-in disk formatting
- built-in commodities manager
- support for appwindows/appicons
- built-in wbstart.library
- supports both spatial (classic wb) and non-spatial (browseable) modes.
- panels

I like wanderer.
are all these ambient features also in wanderer?

Maybe it's possible to take inspiration from ambient to improve wanderer

I like the features that can be seen from the screen shared by another user

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