Yes, running 32-bit binaries on 64-bit system should be as transparent as possible.

ok great

That would be really impressive.

You are doing some great work. Thank you.

deadwood we have a midi driver thanks to hitchhikr, kalamatee, Neil Cafferkey and Alfred Faust you must include it in the contrib archives?

Hello,

An update on the plan:

1) Release 64-bit version of Odyssey Web Browser for AROS, Linux and Windows
2) Implement first prototype of 32-bit-under-64-bit emulator for AROS [IN PROGRESS]
3) Release new version of ABIv0 refreshed to 20221221 codebase

Work on emulator prototype progresses well. If you are interested in details, please check a thread here on arosworld.org. I will be focusing on it in coming weeks. In parallel I'm thinking about releasing first update to 20220318-1 release. There have been a number of fixes since the release so it would be good to package them together and make available to users.

The long term horizon stays unchanged:

"On a longer horizon, there will be a lot of work related to ABIv0 and AxRuntime.

I want to update ABIv0 to be based on latest ABIv11 source code. This will be an enabler to:
1) develop an emulator that will allow running AROS 32-bit programs under 64-bit AROS.
2) develop a version of AxRuntime that is capable of running ABIv0 32-bit programs on top of Linux and Windows

Furthermore, ABIv11 64-bit native will be fixed to provide the same level of hardware compatibility on recommended hardware as current ABIv0 32-bit. On AxRuntime side, the goal will be to develop a working window manager (IntuitionWM) and Linux-native desktop, most likely in form of Scalos.

Once all these things are in place, there will be two development lines available:

For people preferring native AROS we will have ability to use majority the existing 32-bit software base on 64-bit AROS and native 64-bit system working on recommended hardware, which then is an enabler for creation of 64-bit distributions that match current 32-bit distributions in user experience.

For people interested in AxRuntime route we will have a Linux-native desktop and ability to run majority of AROS ABIv0 programs (32-bit), AROS ABIv11 programs (64-bit) and AxRuntime-recompiled programs (64-bit). This way existing distributions could be re-created using Linux as a base without loosing existing functionality for users."

Good work and thank you

Awesome!!

deadwood a question, from the Grub menu you can add an application that is in the system, and then run it directly

No, you can't

Okay thank you, then Early Startup will be used to run this application, basically it was to run uCommander, a simple Menu where you will be able to choose and run some useful applications to do some minor maintenance.

No problem.

In future please use the support thread (https://arosworld.org/infusions/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=1197) for questions on functionality and leave this thread for longer term plan questions only.

Ok, grazie !

Hello,

An update on the plan:

1) Release 64-bit version of Odyssey Web Browser for AROS, Linux and Windows
2) Implement first prototype of 32-bit-under-64-bit emulator for AROS [DONE]
3) Release new version of ABIv0 refreshed to 20221221 codebase

Work on the prototype has been completed. You can read more in this post: https://arosworld...#post_5506

I will now take a short break and then will start working on topic of 64-bit OWB .


The long term horizon stays unchanged:

"On a longer horizon, there will be a lot of work related to ABIv0 and AxRuntime.

I want to update ABIv0 to be based on latest ABIv11 source code. This will be an enabler to:
1) develop an emulator that will allow running AROS 32-bit programs under 64-bit AROS.
2) develop a version of AxRuntime that is capable of running ABIv0 32-bit programs on top of Linux and Windows

Furthermore, ABIv11 64-bit native will be fixed to provide the same level of hardware compatibility on recommended hardware as current ABIv0 32-bit. On AxRuntime side, the goal will be to develop a working window manager (IntuitionWM) and Linux-native desktop, most likely in form of Scalos.

Once all these things are in place, there will be two development lines available:

For people preferring native AROS we will have ability to use majority the existing 32-bit software base on 64-bit AROS and native 64-bit system working on recommended hardware, which then is an enabler for creation of 64-bit distributions that match current 32-bit distributions in user experience.

For people interested in AxRuntime route we will have a Linux-native desktop and ability to run majority of AROS ABIv0 programs (32-bit), AROS ABIv11 programs (64-bit) and AxRuntime-recompiled programs (64-bit). This way existing distributions could be re-created using Linux as a base without loosing existing functionality for users."

and amiga desktop as linux desktop is important. My personal favorites are scalos and magellan

thank you deadwood

Hello,

Quick update:

1) Release 64-bit version of Odyssey Web Browser for AROS, Linux and Windows [IN PROGRESS]
2) Implement first prototype of 32-bit-under-64-bit emulator for AROS [DONE]
3) Release new version of ABIv0 refreshed to 20221221 codebase

Work on 64-bit version of Odyssey as well as AxRuntime is progressing well. The browser is becoming more stable and as a notable development, clipboard sharing has been added to AxRuntime so now it is possible to Copy-Paste between for example Odyssey and Linux/Windows programs.

The long term horizon stays unchanged:

"On a longer horizon, there will be a lot of work related to ABIv0 and AxRuntime.

I want to update ABIv0 to be based on latest ABIv11 source code. This will be an enabler to:
1) develop an emulator that will allow running AROS 32-bit programs under 64-bit AROS.
2) develop a version of AxRuntime that is capable of running ABIv0 32-bit programs on top of Linux and Windows

Furthermore, ABIv11 64-bit native will be fixed to provide the same level of hardware compatibility on recommended hardware as current ABIv0 32-bit. On AxRuntime side, the goal will be to develop a working window manager (IntuitionWM) and Linux-native desktop, most likely in form of Scalos.

Once all these things are in place, there will be two development lines available:

For people preferring native AROS we will have ability to use majority the existing 32-bit software base on 64-bit AROS and native 64-bit system working on recommended hardware, which then is an enabler for creation of 64-bit distributions that match current 32-bit distributions in user experience.

For people interested in AxRuntime route we will have a Linux-native desktop and ability to run majority of AROS ABIv0 programs (32-bit), AROS ABIv11 programs (64-bit) and AxRuntime-recompiled programs (64-bit). This way existing distributions could be re-created using Linux as a base without loosing existing functionality for users."

thank you Deadwood

With the release of 64-bit version of Odyssey it is a good moment give you an update on further plans.

Just as a reminder, here is the current plan:

1) Release 64-bit version of Odyssey Web Browser for AROS, Linux and Windows [DONE]
2) Implement first prototype of 32-bit-under-64-bit emulator for AROS [DONE]
3) Release new version of ABIv0 refreshed to 20221221 codebase

With items 1) and 2) done, it's time to provide some more details on item 3). Here is an updated plan:

1) Upgrade ABIv0 fully to 20241102 codebase
2) Synchronize ABIv0 and ABIv11 codebases to minimize differences
3) Provide synchronized releases of ABIv11 and ABIv0

As you can see from the updated plan, I want to speed up work on ABIv0 and reach feature parity early next year. This will then finally deliver the first major milestone of long term plan and allow migration to 64-bit to be the next major focus.

The long term horizon stays unchanged:

"On a longer horizon, there will be a lot of work related to ABIv0 and AxRuntime.

I want to update ABIv0 to be based on latest ABIv11 source code. This will be an enabler to:
1) develop an emulator that will allow running AROS 32-bit programs under 64-bit AROS.
2) develop a version of AxRuntime that is capable of running ABIv0 32-bit programs on top of Linux and Windows

Furthermore, ABIv11 64-bit native will be fixed to provide the same level of hardware compatibility on recommended hardware as current ABIv0 32-bit. On AxRuntime side, the goal will be to develop a working window manager (IntuitionWM) and Linux-native desktop, most likely in form of Scalos.

Once all these things are in place, there will be two development lines available:

For people preferring native AROS we will have ability to use majority the existing 32-bit software base on 64-bit AROS and native 64-bit system working on recommended hardware, which then is an enabler for creation of 64-bit distributions that match current 32-bit distributions in user experience.

For people interested in AxRuntime route we will have a Linux-native desktop and ability to run majority of AROS ABIv0 programs (32-bit), AROS ABIv11 programs (64-bit) and AxRuntime-recompiled programs (64-bit). This way existing distributions could be re-created using Linux as a base without loosing existing functionality for users."

Thank you deadwood, excellent projects!

thank you deadwood in the future there will be 64-bit tinyaros for axrt I am not able to work with linux thank you for your support